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0 pointspestatije2y ago0 comments

can you not power-off an iphone without unlocking?

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oldbbsnickname2y ago· 5 in thread

Disassemble and remove the battery. I can do this in about 1-2 minutes, others more skilled can do it in <30 seconds.

okr2y ago

And then? You can not turn it on again, without also activating the beacon.

I wonder if stolen iphones have any value except for hardware parts.

layer82y ago

1) Faraday cage.

2) If the thief knows or can guess your passcode, you are screwed, because they can take over your iCloud: https://www.macrumors.com/2023/04/19/apple-responds-to-iphon...

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Cthulhu_2y ago

Didn't iphones start to have DRM on the individual components?

teekert2y ago

Yeah I also wonder what a thief would do with it? Maybe the recycle value is enough for her? Or she gets it to a store where they don't check and recycle parts?

lxgr2y ago

While walking and without alerting the person you just bumped into to the fact that you just took their phone? More realistically, a well-prepared/tech-savvy thief could just drop the phone into a Faraday bag in their backpack/pocket, or alternatively just turn off the phone!

Fortunately, the one that my friend encountered didn't do any of that.

lxgr2y ago· 4 in thread

You can; the thief just didn’t get to do that because they were busy getting away in a non-conspicuous way.

But even turned off, “Find my” stays active these days (although you can no longer make it ring, I believe).

oldbbsnickname2y ago

That option can be disabled by turning off "Find My network" such that the phone will be off and radio silent. With it on, it will continue to beacon until the battery reaches the final BMS low voltage point.

klinquist2y ago

but turning it off requires your password/PIN.

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wincy2y ago

Yeah but turning on airplane mode does disable find my

lxgr2y ago

It doesn’t, as far as I know (or rather, it might turn off the ability to ping the phone, but passive Bluetooth/Find my cloud location should still work).

And even if it does, turning on Airplane mode is not possible anymore for a locked phone.

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11 comments · 2 top-level

oldbbsnickname2y ago· 5 in thread

Disassemble and remove the battery. I can do this in about 1-2 minutes, others more skilled can do it in <30 seconds.

okr2y ago

And then? You can not turn it on again, without also activating the beacon.

I wonder if stolen iphones have any value except for hardware parts.

layer82y ago

1) Faraday cage.

2) If the thief knows or can guess your passcode, you are screwed, because they can take over your iCloud: https://www.macrumors.com/2023/04/19/apple-responds-to-iphon...

2 more replies

Cthulhu_2y ago

Didn't iphones start to have DRM on the individual components?

teekert2y ago

Yeah I also wonder what a thief would do with it? Maybe the recycle value is enough for her? Or she gets it to a store where they don't check and recycle parts?

lxgr2y ago

Fortunately, the one that my friend encountered didn't do any of that.

lxgr2y ago· 4 in thread

You can; the thief just didn’t get to do that because they were busy getting away in a non-conspicuous way.

But even turned off, “Find my” stays active these days (although you can no longer make it ring, I believe).

oldbbsnickname2y ago

klinquist2y ago

but turning it off requires your password/PIN.

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wincy2y ago

Yeah but turning on airplane mode does disable find my

lxgr2y ago

It doesn’t, as far as I know (or rather, it might turn off the ability to ping the phone, but passive Bluetooth/Find my cloud location should still work).

And even if it does, turning on Airplane mode is not possible anymore for a locked phone.

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