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0 pointsg-b-r2y ago0 comments

The problem is that the wide majority of them were (and still are) conspiracy nuts

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Maybe so but it wouldn't be the case if the other parties did their job and denounced the abuses from the EU when those happen.

Instead, it leaves the parties on the fringe as the only ones doing the criticizing.

Why should it be controversial to say that the EU is not perfect and that leaving it could work out better for certain countries?

Instead it's like no one can imagine a time where the EU did not exist and it's almost like we have forgotten that the EU is not the end all be all of everything.

g-b-rOP2y ago

The parties on the fringe usually criticize bs rather than the real problems, because they at most don't care of improving the EU.

In the best case when it doesn't work well it's a convenient target to blame (when it's their own fault).

In other cases they'd like the freedom to be *more* (much more) authoritarian than EU membership allows.

But currently let's be honest, most simply work for Putin or China and the aim is just to wreak havoc.

g-b-rOP2y ago

But yes for sure there should be other parties, or/and the tiny ones that do a great job on internet matters such as the pirate party should get a lot more votes.

omginternets2y ago

When the majority of a country votes against the EU constitution in a public referendum, "conspiracy nut" is a very tough sell.

omginternets2y ago

Ah yes, the classic "you voted wrong; try again" posture.

petre2y ago

Or Russia's useful idiots.

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rdm_blackhole2y ago

Maybe so but it wouldn't be the case if the other parties did their job and denounced the abuses from the EU when those happen.

Instead, it leaves the parties on the fringe as the only ones doing the criticizing.

Why should it be controversial to say that the EU is not perfect and that leaving it could work out better for certain countries?

Instead it's like no one can imagine a time where the EU did not exist and it's almost like we have forgotten that the EU is not the end all be all of everything.

g-b-rOP2y ago

The parties on the fringe usually criticize bs rather than the real problems, because they at most don't care of improving the EU.

In the best case when it doesn't work well it's a convenient target to blame (when it's their own fault).

In other cases they'd like the freedom to be *more* (much more) authoritarian than EU membership allows.

But currently let's be honest, most simply work for Putin or China and the aim is just to wreak havoc.

g-b-rOP2y ago

But yes for sure there should be other parties, or/and the tiny ones that do a great job on internet matters such as the pirate party should get a lot more votes.

omginternets2y ago

When the majority of a country votes against the EU constitution in a public referendum, "conspiracy nut" is a very tough sell.

omginternets2y ago

Ah yes, the classic "you voted wrong; try again" posture.

petre2y ago

Or Russia's useful idiots.

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