* Google search was good, but has been steadily getting worse. Over the last 1-3 years it's become actively unplesant.
* DDG solves a lot of privacy issues, but the search quality is strictly worse than Google. I know people who use it preferentially, and I respect that, but personally Google search is already so bad than opting for something even worse is hard for me to accept. And I think almost every DDG user is familiar with having to fall back to Google to get a result.
* Kagi solves the privacy issues and the search quality is excellent - certainly better than Google is today, and subjectively, feels as good at least as good as Google was at its heyday. And notably I have never needed to fall back to Google; it's just a strict upgrade. I absolutely feel it's worth the cost.
I can't really predict if it will stay good; some of the decline in Google is no doubt just because they're the most popular SEO target, so it's possible if Kagi becomes wildly popular it'll be a victim of it's own success. And of course, Kagi's goals and principles may change with time, etc.
But as of today, if you think you might get some value from really good search, and Kagi isn't wildly out of your price range, give it a shot.
Kagi accepts Bitcoin [1]. They also “do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account” [2].
[1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/payment-methods.html
[2] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-protection.html
> Unlike "free" search engines, we do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account.
So if you trust them to do what they say, then yes, that pretty much solves the issue. If not, well...
But I used DDG for a few years prior and rarely ever used Google. I think DDGs results are subjective in that for some people they are better or as good than Google's.
Let's hope Kagi keep up the good work.
That said, I agree, Kagi is an upgrade over both.
That's arguably a good thing since a premium model mitigates the temptation of ad or data selling based approaches. But the fact is many don't care nor mind those as long as they aren't extremely intrusive. Even if they are (full page banner ad with small x), they may tolerate it anyway.
Kagi v Google, in terms of "How do you operate as an organization wrt the world?"?
Kagi wins hands-down. I couldn't care less about the privacy angle, the QUALITY is amazing. It's like traveling back to 2008, and for $10/mo that's a sweet deal.
I will say I have otherwise been using it as my daily search driver and as long as it’s not location aware it works great, oftentimes better than Google.
The other day I pointlessly attempted to craft queries (in Dutch) where "second hand" didn't mean "cars". It hilariously dropped surrounding words and tried to hard sell me a used car.
The engine didn't do a lot of miles, it was only used by an old lady on Saturday to do shopping.
Towards I end, I found myself comparing Kagi searches against Google because I didn't believe that the results I was getting from Kagi were the best I could get.
I'll try Kagi again once they figure out location-based searching while upholding privacy.
I upgraded my subscription a few weeks ago because I blew past the first tier's limits. Kagi kinda fills the Neeva-sized hole in my heart.
As it is, we only believe that "users paying for services" will protect against data exfiltration because of very naive reasoning, or, perhaps more accurately, praying.
Since the userbase consists largely of people who pay them to not act like google, at least for now, it likely would be an existential threat to the firm. They couldn't get much worse in that regard than big free services, so I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. In the interim, I'm putting my money where my mouth is and paying out of pocket for a really good service. The results are consistently more useful than Google's and the tooling is much much better. So if they are invasively tracking me and selling my data, you can definitely say "i told you so" but maybe we should call off the firing squad until the verdict has been reached. We currently don't have a trial, charges, a crime, evidence, or even empirically-informed suspicion.
One of the best historic examples is MySpace. MySpace started out fine and slowly as it declined and eventually dwindled to nothing, it started selling off massive amounts of previous user data. With no future or user base to speak of, there was a lot more potential benefit selling the data than the cost of protecting/holding it.
That said, if we did lie or change that, we'd be in immediate breach of our privacy policy (https://kagi.com/privacy), and as a result be a very easy target for a lawsuit. Given that we're intentionally not VC backed, between the horrible press this would be and the actual costs of fighting such a lawsuit, I expect not much would be left of Kagi afterwards. We are liable to users, in a pretty existential way.
Your privacy policy has lots of feel-good language that actually doesn't mean anything - along the lines of the classic "We value your privacy" statement that firms often make. When you analyze it, you find it means nothing. There are no actionable clauses. For example, if you are in breach of "Anonymous logs are aggregated with GCP's logging tools, retained for 30 days." what are the enumerated damages? A counter-party would have to prove show BOTH that you are in breach AND then real damages , which is difficult in this case, and entirely misses the point. E.g. if you sell 1M user data records for $.001 each, and a user has on average 10 records on them, the real damages are $.01, but your firm made $100k on the transaction. I don't see a limit to class action (or forced arbitration) so that's good; but good luck building out that class - especially since you'll resist sharing user data with the class action plaintiff, using the same privacy policy as a shield!
(This is the other trick of privacy agreements, apart from not actually saying anything: the stuff that is measurable is unenforceable).
It's time that the public stop seeing moonbeams and rainbows in these matters. Do you think that a lender will be satisfied with a debtor statement "I value paying back my debts, and will never be late!"? If not, then why are we mollified by similar statements by software firms made to us? What is measurable has no teeth; what has teeth is not measurable.
It's a very dirty trick.
Unfortunately these days I won't be surprised to hear of fuckery from them. It's happened too many times.
All things said, I think Kagi really as the incentives aligned. I'm not a fan of Kagi but I believe the "business is sound" :) Sure, I also believe there's no need for such a business (an extension or whatever would suffice), but that doesn't really matter here nor there.
Who would they sell the data to? Google? Ohhhh noooooo...
More seriously, as long as it's paired with a "But their search results are still better than Google's trashfire", I'm not sure it would matter. Their tagline is "Fast, accurate, and ad-free", not "Fast, accurate, ad-free, and private."
"We care about data protection: We will be good stewards of any personal information you share with us. We do not log or associate searches with an account. More at our privacy policy."
literally on the main page. Smh.
This seems like a shame. I'd love to understand more re: how they come up with those prices in the first place, if any information is available.
It would also be interesting to explore how many of the people praising it here and elsewhere are paying customers.
Kagi is slowly rolling out some AI-backed features, and will probably work in other areas too. Two of the flagship AI bits right now are Quick Answer and the Universal Summariser.
Quick Answer collates your search results and gives you a summary of them, with inline references included. This can be alternately useful or somewhat humorous, and sometimes not even a little bit useful. For example, I share a name with a researcher who happens to have worked at the same university I do. I am not an academic and my namesake died several years ago. Quick Answer lumps us into the same person, and I get to read my own obituary.
The other tool takes an article and summarises it. I used this on some blog posts of my own and it actually pretty much regurgitated my own thought process. I haven't used it for much else right now, but it's neat. It also has a beta chat feature which allows you to ask questions about an article, although I tried this with a Guardian article and it didn't pick out small details when asked.
And then I'm also finding the search experience to just be better than Google. So far. I don't know if I'll renew or switch to annual but so far so good, honestly.
Oh yes, I've experienced a similar problem with ChatGPT. I asked it to look up a certain fact and provide references, and the ones it did provide ended up being quasi URLs which didn't actually work.
Perhaps they were from the old (2018, was it?) dataset and got replaced, not sure. I eventually gave up and used Google Scholar, though :-)
> It also has a beta chat feature
This seems interesting, though I'm secretly (or not so, now it's on here) hoping it's not another lazy ChatGPT integration (i.e. Discord, Snapchat, Bing Chat, etc.); ChatGPT seems to be the new Stories: everyone adds it, they're virtually the same, and they still somehow come in in varying degrees of usefulness (e.g. for some arbitrary reason, Snapchat's one can't output JSON...).
> And then I'm also finding the search experience to just be better than Google.
This is intriguing -- may I ask in what way it's better? Are there any anecdotes you could share?
To be frank, I've heard a lot of "Google is dead" talk on here, though if it's that bad surely people would have switched away? Market inertia and vendor lock-in are solid counteraguments, though.
I personally use DuckDuckGo, and find that acceptable; it does fall down in a few cases, where I have to rephrase my query to get something useful out of it. It's surprisingly good, though...
Maybe Kagi is worth a shot, but I still do find the pricing tiers quite unforgiving. Take the "Starter" plan, for instance: that's 300 searches; for me, that would roughly equate to 10 instances of research on really niche topics; that's not even counting the searches I do for things like Stack Exchange, or general engineering advice / questions.
According to DuckDuckGo[0] (which Kagi quotes in their informational), the "average person" makes one search a day -- that doesn't sound right at all.
[0]: https://spreadprivacy.com/how-many-people-use-duckduckgo/
To be clear, the references Quick Answer provides are legitimate, since they are taken from the search results. The results for my name provide a reference to my namesake's obituary and also to my public profile on the institution website. ie "[ToasterOS] died in 2013[1] and he currently works as a [Job Title][2]". It's just a pretty unique situation where a full name search returns an obit AND a living person's profile on the same website. ChatGPT will indeed create completely bogus references when asked, but this isn't that.
> This seems interesting, though I'm secretly (or not so, now it's on here) hoping it's not another lazy ChatGPT integration
I believe it's GPT but it is their own implementation of FastGPT instead of an API thing.
> This is intriguing -- may I ask in what way it's better? Are there any anecdotes you could share?
I search a LOT. In fact the billing page says I've made 540 searches since September 24th; maybe that's higher than most or significantly lower, I don't know. I find search is my main entrypoint into the web; I rarely use bookmarks or anything, and I'll often search things that I want updates on.
As a VERY silly example - I play Old School RuneScape (OSRS). OSRS has two Wikis - an official one, and a crappy one hosted on Fandom. Google tends to prioritise results from the Fandom wiki, which is full of inaccurate information as well as all the other warts Fandom has. Kagi immediately put the official Wiki ahead of that, and also gave me the option to completely remove the Fandom Wiki from future searches. I realise using a search engine as an entrypoint to a Wiki is quite silly, but Wiki searches tend to require exact terminology whereas a web search allows me to be more fuzzy. So, I'm generally finding I can search on Kagi for the functions of things in the game, and subsequently be lead to the correct Wiki article on the correct Wiki right away.
To be a little more real though - I am finding Kagi does an excellent job of cutting out dead internet cruft out of results. One of my favourite pieces of content on the web is a winemaking guide on creating 32-bit winebottles[0]. Spammy, automatically generated articles like this one don't appear in my results for things. I instead find that legitimate content is put ahead of it, and so I find I can trust the top results more. And, in cases where bad content is being prioritised - I can just block it.
I haven't got much use out of them yet but I also quite enjoy the Lenses feature, which allows me to hone in my search to a specific "part" of the web. I also have presences in two countries, and it's nice to be able to select which country I want my search to "take place in".
And then there is just... it's not Google. I hope it remains a decent company for a long time, because I really am happier knowing I'm paying for a service with currency instead of just...incidentally via my participation.
[0]: https://www.slowine.com/how-to-make-a-32-bit-wine-bottle/
I pay for it for myself ($5 a month) and would love to expand to my wife and kids, but yea, its expanding price quickly nullifies that idea.
They are aware that it's not within reach for everyone, and hopefully they'll be able to do something about it (likely with scale: more subscribers, means they can slowly lower the prices as they've done: https://blog.kagi.com/plan-changes)
But it's web search that works well. My experience is that Google is awful, DDG is reasonable, and Kagi is good. Search is very important to me, and if I have to pay to be able to have a good search engine, I'm OK with that.
I wish there was more example results then just "best headphones", "steve jobs", and "python exceptions". I'm interested, but not interested enough to sign up. Maybe its just me, but all the marketing and comments are why to switch away from google search.. which I already did.
There is a docs page[1] on Kagi vs. DuckDuckGo but it doesn't really have any compelling reason to use Kagi from that. I'd love to see concrete examples of how Kagi has better results then DDG.
[1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/why-kagi/kagi-vs-duckduckgo.html
I just use it for a week and feel the difference.
Magi has a free trial of 100 searches. Sign up and try it. I did, and when I ran out of my 100 searches, I went and got my credit card and paid $5/month.
When I tried DDG, I ended up back at Google within a week.
I can’t actually explain how it’s better, other than to encourage you to try it and see for yourself. If you run out of searches and don’t feel it’s better, then you can go back to DDG
More often than not, their search results are returning useable links.
People aren't going to write an essay as to the nuances.
With Kagi, I simply get slightly less spam, and slightly more relevant results (than either with DDG or Google). With every search. And even when I get a bad result, it’s one click to downrank or even block that domain.
If you precede the search query with `!expert` you get an LLM search response.
If you precede it with `!code` you get a GPT-4-ish tuned response. It’s… really good. And since you can do it from a browser bar if you make it your default browser, I find myself reaching for !expert at least 50% as often as ChatGPT these days. Also, it’s extremely good with citations. The !expert mode seems pretty darn up to date, no knowledge cutoff issues. I have no idea if it is search, doing a vector lookup, or they just bake the model every night. Totally magical.
Also, I’m following the LLM stuff pretty closely these days — their universal summarized and their search LLM — no one else is doing that right now. It’s genuinely amazing.
1: https://kagifeedback.org/d/2136-sep-28-2023-assistant-beta-a...
I assume there can't be anything beyond ultimate.
and I was redirected here http://www.searchco.de/?q=how+do+I+invert+a+string+in+python... which doesn't even open (at least on my network)
What's going on here?
I've never heard anyone say anything bad about it - and we're still talking about a $10/month search engine. Something that has been historically free at all times.
In fact, we even axed our referral bonus program a couple months back to ensure that no third party had anything to gain in promoting Kagi. Recently, that included saying "no" to an independent journalist who explicitly asked for referral bonus for their readers. All you see is organic.
When you start searching a lot for professional reasons (e.g. rust the language vs rust the game), Kagi's value is a no-brainer.
I'm blown away. They really are that good
I would have been happy to pay if the results were good, but unfortunately I was disappointed by them.
Or is “picking a different search engine” gonna be something only 1% of users ever do again?
I honestly think that even if Kagi does remain pretty niche (<1% of internet searches, for a ballpark), that’s great if it can really serve that niche (so far… mostly HN-user-types, I would bet).
But it seems hard to make money at that scale and with a non-advertising business model. So godspeed Kagi, I guess.
Personally I'm optimistic that they'll actually grow fairly substantially from here. The search experience is far better than Google, especially for power users.
Main weakness is location based searches and quick answers being time lagged or lacking detail IMO. It seems to me only a matter of time until they close any gaps though.
This is a weird take. Most businesses in the world have < 1000 active customers, and most profitable businesses fit in there too.
Too many people seem to be trying to be the next Zuckerberg. A profitable, sustainable business is a lot more appealing to most.
I don't think that seems hard at all, really. Companies do it all the time. What it makes hard is becoming a multibillion dollar behemoth, but that isn't (and shouldn't be) everyone's goal.
This is a widely held misconception, but there's no legal requirement to maximize profits. They're required to act in the interests of the corporation and its shareholders, but this is very broad and includes more than just wringing out every source of profit.
I'm a recent Kagi convert, and I'd say that Google's search product declining in usefulness is eventually going to impact its profitability.
Companies are run by and for the managers of said company, and what gets them promoted.
Sometimes that aligns with what the shareholders might want, often it does not.
The enduring (and incorrect) myth of how fiduciary responsibility works.
The shareholders might not like it, and the board might fire you, but if you’ve acted in good faith you haven’t violated fiduciary responsibility.
However lately, I've found that it started sucking a lot more when it comes to localised search. I am actually not seeing the value and quality I've seen early on, and will likely stop paying for it as I increasingly do have to fall back to Google.
My unsourced theory is that they’ve optimized getting their search costs down, at the expense of some edge cases that don’t show up in their KPIs.
I’m still a satisfied customer, the product makes me two Starbucks coffees a month happier than I would be still using Google for everything.
That said, we're aware that it's currently something we have to improve, "!g best cafe" is not where we want to be. We're working on it, but if you have specific examples/suggestions, please do submit them to kagifeedback.org so we can track them.
If your searches are this descriptive then yes, I'd expect useless results everywhere. I use Kagi where Bing used to be, for technical reference lookups. It's excellent at putting API docs front-and-center, which means I can alt-tab back to my text editor that much faster. What I love about Kagi is how little of my time and attention the tool requires.
Also my own anecdata - the privacy concerns are a red herring, because the utility of knowing everything you've typed into your PC is diminished when ad surface area no longer exists. I like that Kagi has a privacy focus, but them losing it would not cause me to stop paying for the service as long as the quality was the same or better.
I was beginning to see way too much of these weird domain name mirrors of things in Google Search instead of the real things and I was reading Doctorow on Google's enshittification and I said "OK, enough of this".
I guess it's time to move Google Drive and Gmail as well. The latter is probably fastmail but where to put the Google Drive files? It's like 2TB.
For example, https://www.hosting.de/nextcloud/managed-nextcloud/ you can see 2TB costs 2.5x of a 1TB plan.
The good news is as the community expand, so will the feedback, and we'll be able to improve overall. The even better (and quite surprising) news is that we could be better than eg. Google on any topic at all, which tells me that the ML magic is not actually magic, and we will be able to outperform them in other domains as the community grows, the feedback increases, and our code becomes better.
Years ago when I tried out DDG, I found myself appending !g to every query, and I thought that Google Search would always have a place in my life, but Kagi results are _so_ good.
So, once YouTube has a viable replacement I might be able to delete my Google account.
https://www.youtube.com/watch\?v=(.*)|https://yt.oelrichsgarcia.de/watch\?v=$1
I'm still a happy Kagi user but I found that lens helpful for avoiding over-SEOd sites filled with affiliate links and was disappointed to see it gone.
Google's only advantage over other search engines is its ability to search forums more deeply. The build-in feature of diving into reddit, stack overflow, etc is often useful. After a few test searches, Kagi is adept at this as well.
Other free search alternatives that I've been happy with include: Ecosia, Quant, or even startpage.
Tried to convert my wife to use it, but she's too used to Google (and the integration with Maps, local recommendations for cafés and restaurants, etc) that don't work as well in Kagi (yet). But for day to day, proper searching, it's 100% better.
And I can't stress enough how liberating it is to see the top results of the search are actually most likely the most relevant results (and not "they paid more"). Yesterday I had to set up a clean Windows laptop, and had to use Edge to install Chrome (or Firefox) and 1password: it's just pure lying to users: https://media.m.superuser.one/media_attachments/files/111/21... (that top banner with download 1password doesn't actually do anything, the next results, made to look like a real result with the sublinks etc is all lastpass cheating and paying to be in front of 1psw).
If you are on the fence on paying for a search engine give it a shot for a month and you might be as surprised as to how good Kagi is as I was.
Can’t speak for the mac-only browser, but for the two general browsers, it’s only a post-installation setting, the extension is if you don’t want to change the setting manually (including the private browsing session URL setting) and get some extra features.
Due to a Safari limitation, all the queries are leaked to the previously selected default search engine https://kagifeedback.org/d/1575-ios-extension-leaking-search...
In addition to this, since all the search attempts are being redirected to Kagi, you can’t use any other search engine unless you deactivate the extension and this prevents you from trying the same query on different engines.
P.S: as far as I understand, they don’t have much freedom with the implementation and everything would be much easier if Safari allowed to customise the search engines, but I’m not sure this limitation is being properly communicated to the users (unless I missed some warning during extension installation)
I’ve grown such a disdain for google, far cry from when I stood in the long lines to buy the first android phone.
I’m starting to feel the same way about Apple, in fact, I think if it weren’t for messages I’d actually be willing to try something else.
Maybe this was tweaked to be catchy for developers but I don't think is the right thing to see as the second entry.
If you search for exceptions you want to learn how they work, that is what 99% of the people would need. An entry like this is dangerous for instance if you are just someone trying to learn about them.
IMO this is a red flag about the quality for a search engine. Maybe they are just targeting seasoned tech people who would see this content interesting. But definitely not a search engine for the masses.
Let me give an example. On Kagi, I searched up "Overcoming addiction to Reddit". On Kagi, most of the top results are actually just Reddit posts about drug addiction / addiction in general and not Reddit addiction [1]. If you scroll down, the is a result about internet addiction, but that isn't what I asked for either. Only once you get to the very bottom do you actually get links about Reddit addiction itself. Even then, there aren't that many.
If you do the same query on Google, I get much more results that are actually about Reddit addiction [2]. On top of that, the relevant results are way closer to the top than on Kagi. It even includes high quality links like a Hacker News post on Reddit addiction. I believe Kagi included the same link, but it was hidden all the way on the third page as opposed to being somewhat near the top on Google. Don't get me wrong, Google's results aren't perfect and it has a lot of irrelevant stuff show up in my query about Reddit addiction. But it's still better than Kagi.
My theory is that Kagi just saw the words "overcoming addiction" and "Reddit" and assumed I wanted to look for links about addiction in general on Reddit. Basically it's almost like it did "overcoming addiction site:reddit.com" for the top results. Albeit, after the top results it does show links from other sources. Meanwhile, it seems Google did a better job at parsing the query and realizing I was looking up a specific type of addiction, a Reddit addiction. Kagi did not do this.
My next problem with Kagi is just the lack of results in general. It seems Kagi likes to return a limited number of results per search. It seems it usually gives 20-30 results and sometimes gives more (~70 results) if you give it a very generic query. The problem with this is it makes Kagi terrible for research. In daily life, I never even read past the first few pages on Google. But when researching a niche topic for a paper, you sometimes need to go way past the first page to find what you're looking for. This might be because when doing research on something vague or niche it's hard to get accurate matches on the first page of search. As a result, having a large number of search result pages in general is useful for when this happens. But Kagi simply doesn't do this. It's limit on how many results it returns just kills the ability for you to actually go more in-depth without issuing a modified search query. I seriously doubt Kagi's index is literally so small it can only return around 70 something results at max, so I just have to think this is some self-imposed limitation which ultimately harms the search quality.
Another problem I have with Kagi are lenses. Lenses get hyped up by them, but in practice I found them utterly terrible. I searched up Lo Mein without lenses on and my first results were some pretty high quality recipes. I then turned on the recipe lens and the quality noticeably decreased. Instead of returning Lo Mein recipes from actual recipe sites, it instead returns a Reddit post that links to a gif of someone making Lo Mein. Issue is that gif is actually on gfycat which is shut down. So the top result is useless. The rest of the results aren't even Lo Mein recipes, but instead chicken recipes for instance. So in the process of trying to use lenses to increase my search quality, it actually made it worse.
Also, a tiny nit is that Kagi isn't as good at getting quick answers. If I look up a question on Google, it will usually display some quick summary at the top with the answer to the question. Kagi has quick answer too, but you have to manually click on it to get Kagi to generate the quick answer. I get they're a startup trying to save money, but this is just another reason for me to use Google over Kagi.
As a whole, I haven't found Kagi to be useful at all like many commenters claim it is. I really wanted Kagi to work out as again I love the idea of Kagi. But ultimately, I can't justify using it over Google because the quality has just been so much worse in my experience. Ultimately, I am paying money for Kagi, yet I am getting a lower quality product than Google which is free. At that point, it doesn't make sense for me to continue with Kagi.
1. https://kagi.com/search?q=overcoming+addiction+to+reddit
2. https://www.google.com/search?q=overcoming+addiction+to+redd... (Google may show different results to you because Google might be customizing results based on past searches)
I'm willing to pay to a degree... but honestly, I'm not that compelled by AI/LLMs and get heartburn from utility billing.
I used it when it was free and while it was fine, I didn't feel enough of a difference to DuckDuckGo/Google for it to be worth it to switch permanently.
I searched "Elon Musk" in kagi and Google. I see the results with more text on Kagi. It is more dense. Google shows me more of blank space.
The second thing is domain variety. "Elon Musk" on google shows twice wikipedia, twice CNBC, twice new york times, twice guardian. Mainstream domains are shown several times, with similar titles. Kagi joins groups that nicely.
I searched for "diablo 2 mods". I was expecting hobby pages, fan pages, with forums, mods, wallpapers, maps. It is all gone. Nobody hosts sites like that? The ones there were - are they gone? Has it all split into reddit, nexusmods, facebook groups? Can Google search facebook and reddit now easily? Why such groups are not showed on results, only r/diablo?
I feel that whenever I search something media outlets appear first. Even when searching for mods ign shows with some articles.
Is google a good tool for discovery, or just for searching a precise information like "how to solve this x compilation error"? Has Internet become a dull place because people are consoomers now, not creators? Or people are just focused on creating food images on an Instagram? There is no sense of wonder with results. Maybe my expectations are too high?
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(Reposts are fine after a year or so, and links to past threads are just to satisfy curious readers)
does kagi also censor illegal content or content residing in a gray zone? like porn, streaming movies, torrenting, racism etc
does kagi censor so called fake news and dangerous misinformation with regard to corona for example?
