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I’ve found it’s not actually as easy to get this stuff to sound different to the specific someone it’s trained on.

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Don't expect that to last more than a year or two, assuming it's even still a problem for the best voice-generation AIs. Generating high-quality is the hard problem; generating specific high-quality samples is, by comparison, a lot easier.

Remember when Stable Diffusion was released a year ago and one of the big artist copes was "sure, it can generate random images, but it'll never be able to generate the same character repeatedly!" They were already wrong because Textual Inversion and DreamBooth were already published, and soon enough, ported to SD and now people could dump out thousands of images of the same character in the same consistent style etc (and did).

techdragonOP2y ago

The issue is more that I can’t get the equivalent of a slider control to adjust one or more properties of the voice from the AI in real time… like a vocal fry slider to use an example of something most people are capable of deliberately doing when they want to… but the currently available models are pre-trained to sound like the average/median of one specific person (or character) and while I imagine tools will improve to control and customise the training of the models to customise this vocal output I don’t see a clear path from the current model architectural design to one where I can freely control the stylistic expression aspects of the vocal output without loading in a completely different set of model data trained for that new desired output.

gwern2y ago

No, that's easy. We had the equivalent of that in GANs many years ago. If you've never seen GAN editing, here's a quick video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1-3JKDh0nI (Background: https://gwern.net/face#reversing-stylegan-to-control-modify-... ) You just classify the latents and then you can edit it. These days, with pretrained models like CLIP, you don't necessarily even need a latent space: you can take a model which has been trained on sound/text descriptions, like AudioCLIP, prompt it with a text like "vocal fry", and then the generated samples are subtly skewed to try to maximize similarity with "vocal fry". You put a slider on that for how much weight/skewing it does, and now you have a slider control to adjust properties of the voice from the AI. If something like this doesn't exist, it's obvious how to do it. (Even the realtime problem is being solved by figuring out how to train diffusion models to do a GAN-like single pass: https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.06380 )

techdragonOP2y ago

I didn’t get to really explore the GAN generation of ML work particularly well since I had no supported hardware (no desire to support the nVidia monopoly on ML work) and refused to blow money on cloud instances I’d probably forget at some point and wind up with a giant bill.

It’s a really different world now I’ve got massive models running on my laptop thanks to Apple Silicon and the unified memory architecture, and the c++ ports of various diffusion image models and several families of large language text models work well on my AMD gpu too… it’s so much easier to participate in the current generation of applied ML work without having to go out of my way to have specific ML supported hardware.

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