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0 pointsmbakke2y ago0 comments

A metal bar will always be a metal bar.

Software is malleable, and Tesla (or hackers) can change it under your feet. You should be able to inspect it and have a say in what it does or whether to accept the next update.

See the recent Philips Hue debacle for an example of when software that's been running well for years suddenly turns on the user.

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onethought2y ago

Metal isn’t malleable? I guess they just dug it up in the shape of a car.

See recent car recalls where there is a structural problem with the car.

This is not unique to software.

mbakkeOP2y ago

Right, I worded that poorly. The point is that Tesla cannot remotely change the metal in your car, whereas they can with the software.

We as users should demand insight into the software running on hardware we own. Otherwise we only partially own it, and if the device is connected to the internet, we can lose ownership any time.

onethought2y ago

They can, it’s called a recall. If you do not respond to a recall the value of you car basically hits 0. Which was literally my point.

When you buy a house do you enquire into the grade of concrete used in the foundations? Should “we home owners demand insight into the concrete ratios used”.

I wonder if on electrician forums there are folks saying: “wiring should be open source”? Like because you understand something you want more insight, but you’re happy to be in ignorant bliss on every other aspect of a product.

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0 pointsmbakke2y ago0 comments

A metal bar will always be a metal bar.

Software is malleable, and Tesla (or hackers) can change it under your feet. You should be able to inspect it and have a say in what it does or whether to accept the next update.

See the recent Philips Hue debacle for an example of when software that's been running well for years suddenly turns on the user.

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onethought2y ago

Metal isn’t malleable? I guess they just dug it up in the shape of a car.

See recent car recalls where there is a structural problem with the car.

This is not unique to software.

mbakkeOP2y ago

Right, I worded that poorly. The point is that Tesla cannot remotely change the metal in your car, whereas they can with the software.

We as users should demand insight into the software running on hardware we own. Otherwise we only partially own it, and if the device is connected to the internet, we can lose ownership any time.

onethought2y ago

They can, it’s called a recall. If you do not respond to a recall the value of you car basically hits 0. Which was literally my point.

When you buy a house do you enquire into the grade of concrete used in the foundations? Should “we home owners demand insight into the concrete ratios used”.

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