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All of that appeared first in HP-UX, Solaris and Aix.

Xenix and Coherent were the first UNIX on consumer hardware.

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Which is why I said: “All of that stuff was not a first ever implementation, of course, but it was well executed and led the way.”

Apple is rarely the first at doing something but it's often the first that's good and cheap enough that people care about.

pjmlpOP2y ago

Which makes the point that there is hardly any UNIX inovation coming from them.

Please cite a USENIX research paper from Apple.

tambourine_man2y ago

Apple didn’t invent the GUI, touchscreen or the concept of unifying init, cron, etc.

But it was after they released their implementations that those ideas caught on.

I hope you can see the point I’m making.

pjmlpOP2y ago

UNIX was already winning the server room and workstation market before Apple, that is why they came up with A/UX in first place.

The Hollywood studios that now use Apple, would be using SGI previously.

On iDevices, UNIX APIs aren't even that relevant for app development, even basic stuff like networking has been superceeded by Objective-C specific APIs.

So no, I don't see anything UNIX related where Apple has helped to caught on.

Moving beyond UNIX, now that is a thing NeXT and Apple have done a lot.

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tambourine_man2y ago

Which is why I said: “All of that stuff was not a first ever implementation, of course, but it was well executed and led the way.”

Apple is rarely the first at doing something but it's often the first that's good and cheap enough that people care about.

pjmlpOP2y ago

Which makes the point that there is hardly any UNIX inovation coming from them.

Please cite a USENIX research paper from Apple.

tambourine_man2y ago

Apple didn’t invent the GUI, touchscreen or the concept of unifying init, cron, etc.

But it was after they released their implementations that those ideas caught on.

I hope you can see the point I’m making.

pjmlpOP2y ago

UNIX was already winning the server room and workstation market before Apple, that is why they came up with A/UX in first place.

The Hollywood studios that now use Apple, would be using SGI previously.

On iDevices, UNIX APIs aren't even that relevant for app development, even basic stuff like networking has been superceeded by Objective-C specific APIs.

So no, I don't see anything UNIX related where Apple has helped to caught on.

Moving beyond UNIX, now that is a thing NeXT and Apple have done a lot.

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