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0 pointsekanes2y ago0 comments

> an individual's project to provide an AI therapist and while people here and there did mention the cons of having a program provide medical treatment, the overall sentiment wasn't at all negative.

Sorta. You're forgetting to compare it to an alternative. Compared to a licensed therapist that you can find, schedule, travel to and afford... for some people an imperfect something is better than the nothing they have now.

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moritzwarhier2y ago

This is really the only part of the post where I too started pondering.

Wholeheartedly agree with the rest and am thankful for the link compilation.

IMHO, the thing with therapy for mental health problems is that it's mostly in such a sorry state that it's an insult to GPs point to call it a medical treatment. I only make that bold claim because of my own experience. As always, YMMV.

Doesn't make the AI thing less creepy, but I'd still carefully consider there's some real potential here.

norir2y ago

For me, the idea of robots being necessary to provide needed therapy that otherwise would be unavailable is enough to induce existential despair. I really can't imagine it as a viable long term treatment. Much of the point of therapy is just having a human advocate who is invested in your wellbeing. AI therapy sends the message that human problems are not worthy of human attention.

ekanesOP2y ago

I don't disagree. That said we still live in a world that has always known hunger and war, and those are even lower on maslow's hierarchy. So my point is simply that we are where we are and that anything that helps is worth doing rather than not doing because the more ideal alternative isn't happening.

pixl972y ago

> AI therapy sends the message that human problems are not worthy of human attention

Scratch 'AI therapy' and just put in capitalism and you have the answer to the problems we have.

Therapy is a job that people do to pay the bills after the 10th person they've seen that day.

noduerme2y ago

>> Therapy is a job that people do to pay the bills after the 10th person they've seen that day.

You're contradicting yourself. Either therapists actually care, or they wouldn't do their job without capitalist incentives. Which is it?

pixl972y ago

You seem to only deal with black and white situations, reality rarely present clean cut scenarios like that.

For example I deal directly with customers quite often. The amount of "I give a fuck" is much higher at 8AM then it is at 4PM. To find people that can give out a continuous amount of caring at 40 hours a week is difficult. Then you tend to have some percentage of employees that "Don't give a fuck" at all and are there for a paycheck.

It turns out that if you take away that paycheck you'll find that 99% of your therapists and your engineers will go do something else. :)

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moritzwarhier2y ago

This is really the only part of the post where I too started pondering.

Wholeheartedly agree with the rest and am thankful for the link compilation.

Doesn't make the AI thing less creepy, but I'd still carefully consider there's some real potential here.

norir2y ago

ekanesOP2y ago

pixl972y ago

> AI therapy sends the message that human problems are not worthy of human attention

Scratch 'AI therapy' and just put in capitalism and you have the answer to the problems we have.

Therapy is a job that people do to pay the bills after the 10th person they've seen that day.

noduerme2y ago

>> Therapy is a job that people do to pay the bills after the 10th person they've seen that day.

You're contradicting yourself. Either therapists actually care, or they wouldn't do their job without capitalist incentives. Which is it?

pixl972y ago

You seem to only deal with black and white situations, reality rarely present clean cut scenarios like that.

It turns out that if you take away that paycheck you'll find that 99% of your therapists and your engineers will go do something else. :)

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