You can call it ultra processed but so is livestock production.
My point is that some people actually prefer veggie or “fake” burgers and if tomorrow beef didn’t exist people would be more than happy with what currently exists today. It’s not like there is a huge gap there. Most people like the burger for the additions anyway.
Some people != all people
You are also assuming that most people like the burger for the addition (which may be true, but it's hard to know this for sure)
If tomorrow beef didn't exist the burgers would disappear as a regularly consummed food.
As far as taste, I'll admit that meat burgers are much more variable whereas impossible's are just one product. So it's more consistent compared to all the bad options you have for meat burgers.
But compared to a fresh unfrozen well-grilled burger there's absolutely no comparison. You are simply not making a serious argument to say impossible's taste better than that, to the point that I think you could be trolling.
At best you can say they aren't terrible, but again they're more expensive.
As far as beyond's go, they're even worse than the worst frozen burgers I can find.
Veganism is about not using animal products. It says nothing about the health of the diet. That some people incidentally eat healthier through becoming vegan says nothing about veganism as a whole.
> But compared to a fresh unfrozen well-grilled burger there's absolutely no comparison. You are simply not making a serious argument to say impossible's taste better than that, to the point that I think you could be trolling.
I agree, which is why I mention that lab grown meat (that tastes identical to naturally raised meat because, well, it's all the same cells in the end) is the answer over trying to get everyone to change their behavior.
When I google "why be vegan" all the top 5 results are "because of health". So objectively, you are wrong.
It sounds like you have an idealistic view of what it means to be vegan that flies in the face of reality.
