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0 pointsem-bee2y ago0 comments

fully agree, especially with the second paragraph. even as a developer, i want a simple DSL that lets me declare things and not twist the data structures into code. and especially as a programmer, if code is needed for more complex structures, i want that to be done in a real programming language.

so i am favoring the two products approach, or maybe a language with a well designed syntax for data, where the relationship between the two is like that of JSON and javascript.

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chubot2y ago

FWIW the JSON/JavaScript design is roughly where we're going with Oils

We have JSON support for literal data, pure data

But you can also interleave code and data in what turns out to be a very Lisp-y fashion, which is useful for configuration

https://www.oilshell.org/release/0.17.0/doc/hay.html

Slogan: We're adding the missing declarative part to shell, called Hay (Hay Ain't YAML)

That is, most YAML configs are just nested key-value pairs, where some values are shell snippets ... So I think it makes sense to add declarative data to shell instead!

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