undefined | Better HN

0 pointsPrimeMcFly2y ago0 comments

> you need to give the authorites access to customers data

At least some cloud providers require a warrant before doing so.

0 comments

Of course they need a warrant. Officer Johnson from Randomtown Alabama can't just call up Google and tell they want access to everything in GDrive :D

But the point is that if the data is fully encrypted, no warrant will help against pure mathematics. A cloud provider cannot give something they have no access to.

PrimeMcFlyOP2y ago

> Of course they need a warrant.

Right, but your post kind of made it seem like they didn't. And with the CSASM stuff, they didn't need anything to match hashes. So what happens when that gets expanded to other types of content that they still don't need a warrant for? Like torrent files?

> But the point is that if the data is fully encrypted, no warrant will help against pure mathematics. A cloud provider cannot give something they have no access to.

Agreed, but most don't use encryption, and should still have privacy rights for their data.

theshrike792y ago

If they would have expanded it beyond CSAM, in that instance I would have joined the rest of the internet on the picket lines protesting against the system.

The point of the system would've been that EVERYONE'S content would've been encrypted in the cloud without them needing to do anything.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

0 comments

theshrike792y ago

Of course they need a warrant. Officer Johnson from Randomtown Alabama can't just call up Google and tell they want access to everything in GDrive :D

But the point is that if the data is fully encrypted, no warrant will help against pure mathematics. A cloud provider cannot give something they have no access to.

PrimeMcFlyOP2y ago

> Of course they need a warrant.

> But the point is that if the data is fully encrypted, no warrant will help against pure mathematics. A cloud provider cannot give something they have no access to.

Agreed, but most don't use encryption, and should still have privacy rights for their data.

theshrike792y ago

If they would have expanded it beyond CSAM, in that instance I would have joined the rest of the internet on the picket lines protesting against the system.

The point of the system would've been that EVERYONE'S content would've been encrypted in the cloud without them needing to do anything.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse