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0 pointskdmccormick2y ago0 comments

"Why did I leave Halloween candy on my porch if I wasn't okay with one jerk kid taking all of it for himself?"

Because projects believ(ed) that the good will of their users would be enough to sustain their projects and businesses.

Now that certain projects see that good will isn't working, they're switching to the legal system.

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Open source licenses are the legal system. They're licenses. Changing your license isn't "switching to the legal system."

kdmccormickOP2y ago

I must not be making myself clear.

Projects are free to choose permissive licenses like BSD.

Companies are then free to use the code however they like and not contribute back in any way.

Projects are then free to be annoyed by this because they hoped that companies would contribute time and/or resouces out their own good will.

Finally, projects are free to move to "business source" licenses because good will didn't work, so they need to utilize the legal system to ensure that large companies help sustain the project.

What part of this do you disagree with?

madeofpalk2y ago

Describing changing to a source-available licenses as "now utilizing the legal system" is strange.

Projects choosing a permissive license like BSD is utilizing the legal system. BSD is a contract, a copyright license. It imposes restrictions/limitations/obligations, which can/would be enforced by a court.

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deadbunny2y ago

Here is some software we made. Use it however and for whatever you like.

Wait not like that.

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pcthrowaway2y ago

Ehh.. with terraform it's more like putting out a bootstrapped "need a penny, take a penny. have a penny, leave a penny" jar in front of the register, occasionally putting your own pennies into it (while other people leave theirs as well), then, after the jar starts to overflow, and you realized no one was giving your business extra money, you decide to take the jar (now a significant chunk of change, thanks in large part to the good will of others)

msum2y ago

Sooo much this. I think we are going to see a rise of “wait that’s not cool” defensive measures _in general_.

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pessimizer2y ago

Open source licenses are the legal system. They're licenses. Changing your license isn't "switching to the legal system."

kdmccormickOP2y ago

I must not be making myself clear.

Projects are free to choose permissive licenses like BSD.

Companies are then free to use the code however they like and not contribute back in any way.

Projects are then free to be annoyed by this because they hoped that companies would contribute time and/or resouces out their own good will.

Finally, projects are free to move to "business source" licenses because good will didn't work, so they need to utilize the legal system to ensure that large companies help sustain the project.

What part of this do you disagree with?

madeofpalk2y ago

Describing changing to a source-available licenses as "now utilizing the legal system" is strange.

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deadbunny2y ago

Here is some software we made. Use it however and for whatever you like.

Wait not like that.

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pcthrowaway2y ago

msum2y ago

Sooo much this. I think we are going to see a rise of “wait that’s not cool” defensive measures _in general_.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse