USB-C Confirmed for the iPhone 15 (opens in new tab)

> Now I just hope they don't institute some dumb program where it only talks to Apple devices or some crap.

The behavior will be the same as it is on iPads, which have had USB-C for 5 years.

The EU has already said that would be illegal. Apple may still do it, but I expect they'd stop pretty soon after an import ban happens. (I don't think they do any manufacturing in the EU anymore)

Oh, they will. Apple will cripple the port with some BS excuse about "security."

> Finally

Besides the fact that USB-C didn't exist at the time, I can't see any reason for Apple developing Lightning in the first place. ;-)

How do you "insert it incorrectly"? It's symmetrical and works in both possible orientations.

This is exactly right. Lightning is more resilient to damage. Lightning also puts the fragile part on the charger side and not in the device. Two of my USB-C devices developed loose connections after a year or so that replacing the charger wouldn't solve, a camera and a Windows laptop.

Arguing for more-descriptive titles (and against shitty ones) is always good.

Meanwhile, "as per" is redundant.

It's funny how people adapt to bad design: usbc you don't have to clean. You can say it's "uncleanable" or that it is properly designed.

My experience was that lighting is a bit loose and the dimensions are a bit too big so it collects dirt and the you have to clean it. I have not experience this with usbc on multiple different devices.

I have four USB C ports on my 2016 MacBook Pro, which also charges via USB C.

Hasn't the iPad Pro also used USB C since 2018? I think the iPhone and a few accessories like keyboards and trackpads are the last gasp of Lightning (which admittedly was a pretty effective replacement for the 30-pin dock connector that Apple used from 2003-2012.)

Though personally I'm surprised that Apple didn't decide to dodge the EU ruling by welding a USB C dongle to every EU iPhone. ;-)

Other than the iPhone and the ear pods, I can't think of a single Apple device that doesn't have USB-C. The Macs all have it, beats pro have it, homepod has it, even the Apple TV has a USB-C port.

I'm sure the universe of people who only have those two devices and don't have friends that own literally any other devices will be distraught that they have to add a $5 cable to their next phone purchase, but I don't feel very bad for them. Would you prefer it if the 15 had two ports instead?

??? Using a standardized cable that you'll always be able to find at a friend's place that also works with basically all modern devices doesn't improve your user experience?

Why, are they also forcing you to throw away your old iPhone?

the term experience was used and only carrying 1 usbc cable from a fast charge portable power bank for an iphone and M chip macbook will be an amazing experience

Imagine complaining about standardization.

Now I can buy good white Bluetooth headphones without having to retool my entire home's power banking.

I can't wait to be using USB C in 15 years because of the EU.

As someone who hasn't owned a mobile apple device since 2012 or so (my ipod touch still had the old wide port that predates thunderbolt), my expectation of friction for a cable is essentially just that it requires more force to remove than you would normally exert by moving the phone itself.

This sounds snarky but I'm genuinely interested in the different perspective - is it a normal thing to hang your iphone off the cable to move it around?

If we're going to base the reliability of a connector by a single example my 6 year old phone still holds cables as snuggly as day one. I can grab it from the cable and it doesn't fall. Maybe if I try to treat it like a whip it will but that's outside a reasonable use case. The cable is not 6 years old mind you, close to 3. But the connector aside from pulling gunk out with a needle a few times works perfectly.

Just don't grab things by the cable?

Though it might depend somewhat on manufacturing tolerance, I suspect that USB C is designed a bit like MagSafe to prevent cord-tripping accidents. I've walked through my USB C charge cable for my (Apple) laptop several times, and thankfully each time the cable disconnected without sending my laptop crashing to the floor. Yet for the most part the connection has been solid and hasn't unplugged on its own. The exception is if dirt/lint/etc. gets into the socket and the plug doesn't go all the way in, but that has also happened with lightning.

Although I do think that MagSafe offers better cord-trip protection, USB C wasn't nearly as bad as I expected it to be.

MagSafe also has a weird issue that magnetic or metallic dust/grit can get stuck in the socket! You can usually clean it out though.