Chrome shows off recent additions: web components, remote android debug, & more (opens in new tab)

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68 pointssean_lynch14y ago10 comments

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It makes me sad to read about all these cool features that I'm going to have to wait 4 years to use on any real websites.

atesti14y ago

Or go back more than 4 years and use IE 5.5 ;-) Remember those HTC files?

erikpukinskis14y ago

Web components seems bizarre to me. Web developers are moving away from the multiple requests per page model, towards sprites and asset packaging. Web components seem like a step backward, especially given that all of the web frameworks have robust templating solutions.

Am I missing some key need here?

abraham14y ago

Looking at the Web Components overview it doesn't add any addition request unless you build it that way. It basically seems to add HTML templating and a cleaner API for working with events and modifying nodes.

Groxx14y ago

And scoped styles (including only optionally inheriting styles from the parents) and events, which seem like they could be phenomenally helpful for widget libraries. You have to be careful with site-wide CSS to avoid styling, for example, a jQueryUI widget. With this, there would be zero conflicts, unless you explicitly allow them.

voidr14y ago

If the browser knows that the tabs.html is a reusable component that does not have changing content, it can cache it very intelligently. Also if someone builds a tabs component and hosts it on foo.com/999/tabs.html (CDN) which you use, your visitors may already have it downloaded and cached.

So I think in the long run, something like this would be a better solution.

miniatureape14y ago

The remote debugging is long past due. If google wants to push the mobile web and Android they need to step it up. Their browser is awful compared to the iphone's and the tooling isn't there. It's a place Android could really excel and, as a mobile web dev and Android user, it's been really disappointing to watch them sqaunder the opportunity.

magicalist14y ago

Huh? They do need to step it up if mobile web apps are ever going to be a decent experience, the Android browser has been sometimes sufficient but never stellar, but isn't "stepping it up" exactly what remote debugging (and the new chrome) is? How is that squandering anything? Are you just mixing tenses?

Mobile safari certainly isn't a good example for tooling, though remote debugging is apparently there waiting to be enabled: http://atnan.com/blog/2011/11/17/enabling-remote-debugging-v...

miniatureape14y ago

> but isn't "stepping it up" exactly what remote debugging (and the new chrome) is?

Yes, which is why I said it's long past due.

poub14y ago

I am using adobe shadow and it works well for my needs. Not sure for web apps debugging though. http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/shadow/

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cageface14y ago

It makes me sad to read about all these cool features that I'm going to have to wait 4 years to use on any real websites.

atesti14y ago

Or go back more than 4 years and use IE 5.5 ;-) Remember those HTC files?

erikpukinskis14y ago

Am I missing some key need here?

abraham14y ago

Groxx14y ago

voidr14y ago

So I think in the long run, something like this would be a better solution.

miniatureape14y ago

magicalist14y ago

Mobile safari certainly isn't a good example for tooling, though remote debugging is apparently there waiting to be enabled: http://atnan.com/blog/2011/11/17/enabling-remote-debugging-v...

miniatureape14y ago

> but isn't "stepping it up" exactly what remote debugging (and the new chrome) is?

Yes, which is why I said it's long past due.

poub14y ago

I am using adobe shadow and it works well for my needs. Not sure for web apps debugging though. http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/shadow/

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