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0 pointsAurornis2y ago0 comments

> What's the difference between a foreigner with an accent in your onsite team VS a foreigner that's remote in US timezones (LatAm)?

If I give someone in the US access to my code, systems, and, inevitably, customer data then I have a lot of legal recourse against that person if they do something bad. They have a lot of incentive to be careful and follow the rules. Their desire to maintain their reputation and avoid legal liability aligns our interests.

If I hire someone in the US and they hand everything over to a random person in a foreign country who doesn't care in the slightest about US laws, then they don't care about anything other than keeping those paychecks coming for a while. They don't care about anything, especially once those paychecks stop coming. It's even more complicated because the company isn't the one sending the paychecks, it's the person you hired. If that person has a falling out with their outsourced counterpart and the outsourced counterpart decides to take revenge on the company as leverage over their front-person, it gets bad.

> Security? It applies if you're working on defense software, but other than that...?

Are you suggesting that security only matters to defense software? You've never worked on a project that involves customer data? You've never worked on proprietary software that your competitors would love to have?

Do you not get annoyed when companies leak your personal data?

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sam0x172y ago· 2 in thread

> they don't care about anything other than keeping those paychecks coming for a while

Don't forget this is all employment really is. Any employee-employer relationship boils down to this regardless of what you have deluded yourself into believing.

okaram2y ago

That is ... wrong, or at least very reductionist.

Yes, I do my work for money, and would not do it if they don't pay me, but it's definitely not just money. I like my team, have personal friends among them, and find pleasure and realization in doing a good job.

sam0x172y ago

But not enough that if they stopped paying you you would keep working, presumably

Everything beyond the core financial relationship is just mythology and propaganda employers have beaten into you since birth to make you a good serf

Similarly those "friends" will throw you to the wayside when their own employment is threatened. Been there, done that.

Employers pretend their employees aren't replaceable cogs, but that's exactly how they see them.

baristaGeek2y ago· 2 in thread

Run a background check, sign confidentiality and DP agreements and hire someone who sells you trust. Again, something you would do in any given modality of work.

eldaisfish2y ago

this sounds good on paper but how effective - really - are background checks outside the developed world? Even inside the developed world, language becomes a big stumbling block.

la647102y ago

If you are so worried don’t hire remote. You get what you pay for.

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myth20182y ago

Hi. Question: I'm an engineer living outside the US. If I were to establish a consultancy company in the US and offer my services through it, would that fulfill the legal and security concerns?

flir2y ago

> and, inevitably, customer data

That's not inevitable (for programmers, at least). Post-GDPR European developers generally keep well away from customer data, and it isn't a big impediment.

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