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0 pointscsears2y ago0 comments

Good advice. I know there have been situations where federal agencies have turned out to be "the bad guys", but I guess I'm optimistic that they are generally smart, well intentioned, and interested in some of the same outcomes that I'm talking about.

As to why I'm exploring this, it's just a topic I've been thinking about lately. My daughter is starting college in the fall and they've had a lot of deaths over the last few years from fentanyl in pot. I plan to send her with a bunch of fentanyl test strips. If she ends up using them for herself or friends or other random college kids, it could very realistically save a life. Depending on how that goes, I'm also looking at a program to get fentanyl test strips to college kids for free on a larger scale.

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derekja2y ago· 2 in thread

"lot of deaths over the last few years from fentanyl in pot."

Can you share a case where this has been confirmed? There was some hysteria in Connecticut last year, but my understanding is that this has never actually happened. I'd love to see a pointer to a coroner's report on a case of accidental fentanyl ingestion from laced pot having led to an overdose.

I have seen cases of fentanyl test strips coming up positive, but only with incidental contamination rather than anything in concentrations that are actually hazardous. Fentanyl decomposes at under 300 degrees and pot burns at 450, so it is not actually a viable route to ingestion.

csearsOP2y ago

I'll try to find a good source to back up the claim. The statement was made in a verbal, in-person presentation by the deputy chief of the university police, who was told by the city coroner. But for all I know, he could have made it up in an attempt to scare the kids.

DonHopkins2y ago

>But for all I know, he could have made it up in an attempt to scare the kids.

Yet you just unquestioningly publicly stated it as fact, so what does that make you?

>My daughter is starting college in the fall and they've had a lot of deaths over the last few years from fentanyl in pot.

ss19962y ago· 2 in thread

Fyi, Fentanyl strips are not full proof. This is because the amount of Fentanyl mixed is so small, there is high likelihood that no Fentanyl is picked up in the tested sample. In other words, high chance of false negatives. Test kits + narcan on hand is the best way to be safe.

csearsOP2y ago

That's good to know. I've only done a little initial research around this. I ordered some test strips from a manufacture called MD-Bio (https://mdbio.com). I'll be sure to review all their instructions and safety info.

Out of curiosity, are you saying that a Fentanyl level can be so low that it's undetectable by the test strips, but still high enough to kill someone?

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ImPostingOnHN2y ago

most test kits properly instruct you on this, but you can dissolve your entire dose, or the entire batch, in water, test that, then either consume like that or let the water evaporate

in other words, testing a portion doesn't consume that portion, so you can literally test and then consume the same dose

stay safe

toyg2y ago

> interested in some of the same outcomes

You're being very optimistic there. For a lot of people "higher up", not just in law enforcement, extra deaths as a side effect of drug-handling is a feature, not a bug.

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derekja2y ago· 2 in thread

"lot of deaths over the last few years from fentanyl in pot."

csearsOP2y ago

DonHopkins2y ago

>But for all I know, he could have made it up in an attempt to scare the kids.

Yet you just unquestioningly publicly stated it as fact, so what does that make you?

>My daughter is starting college in the fall and they've had a lot of deaths over the last few years from fentanyl in pot.

ss19962y ago· 2 in thread

csearsOP2y ago

Out of curiosity, are you saying that a Fentanyl level can be so low that it's undetectable by the test strips, but still high enough to kill someone?

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ImPostingOnHN2y ago

most test kits properly instruct you on this, but you can dissolve your entire dose, or the entire batch, in water, test that, then either consume like that or let the water evaporate

in other words, testing a portion doesn't consume that portion, so you can literally test and then consume the same dose

stay safe

toyg2y ago

> interested in some of the same outcomes

You're being very optimistic there. For a lot of people "higher up", not just in law enforcement, extra deaths as a side effect of drug-handling is a feature, not a bug.

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