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34 comments

dreadlordbone2y ago

I got the "Universal Jump Engine" and the game reset.

littlestymaar2y ago

Strong The last question[1] vibe here.

[1] http://www.thelastquestion.net/

arvindh-manian2y ago

karmakaze2y ago

I definitely got a Universal Paperclips vibe from it (with illegible color choices).

shmapf2y ago

I don't understand why it resets at universal jump engine. Is that the end of the game, or is there some way to end up in a different state? I got to the point where that was the only option left.

sneeze-slayer2y ago

Universal jump engine with one destination: 2022

rohan_2y ago

It's very unclear what the book emoji is and how to improve it's rate of increase.

etskinner2y ago

It's the total accumulated knowledge, I think.

motoboi2y ago

human knowledge

rhinoceraptor2y ago

It's the AI Wealth statistic.

kmeisthax2y ago

My first run: I deliberately buy every option that hurts alignment with the goal of killing humanity. Eventually I run out of alignment-harming stuff to buy, and everything else helps so much that around 2080 I have a human population of 14 million.

Second run ('cause I clicked the universal jump engine by accident): I deliberately hold off on AI upgrades unless I can keep alignment high. At 2080, AI is out-earning humanity but very stupid and humanity is only at 586 million.

(Also, why does the population start off so low? Do you know something that I don't?)

EDIT: I bought all the alignment upgrades on the second run. I don't entirely understand how threatening to nuke countries that research AI improves alignment when I'm already running GPT-5 on millions of GPUs

jepler2y ago

The initial population is "the US", not "the world".

yeah a warning about 'universal jump engine' would be good.

admaiora2y ago

I had no idea what it is but kinda ruined the mood for me when the game reset

tl2y ago

Tried systematically buying every alignment minus. Getting all of them yields "Nanobot light sphere consumes earth" which sets human population to zero. You must have accidentally bought an alignment bonus.

kmeisthax2y ago

Tried a second time and yes I have successfully eaten humanity. Colonizing Mars didn't save anyone. Oddly enough I can still buy alignment upgrades (to WHAT?!) and GPUs (from WHOM!?). And the penalty for being eaten by nanobots is not -100% humans, it's -1B humans. So presumably if you overpopulate before you misalign you can survive the nanobots.

scrumper2y ago

What is "AI Wealth" here, where's it measured? Human wealth I get, it's the money stat. Human knowledge is the book. AI IQ is self explanatory. Population, GPUs, same. So which one is AI wealth?

I enjoyed the Paperclip thing, this is similar.

mkaic2y ago

There's only one wealth and one knowledge coffer. Both AI and humanity have their own wealth and knowledge production rates linked to the number of GPUs/IQ and population, respectively.

littlestymaar2y ago

I don't think there's AI knowledge production actually, or at least that's why I assumed since we don't have a way to improve it with research unlike everything else.

scrumper2y ago

Ah thanks. Got it.

73737373732y ago

Is there a programmatic way to optimize speedruns for this kind of games? The number of steps/the size of the search space seems too large to apply a MILP solver to it

qwerty33442y ago

monte carlo or some kind of ant colony simulation probably

Leary2y ago

Started by maxing AI.

Got hit by the virus.

Maxed alignment after that.

Now in 2066 and waiting for BrainLink

avereveard2y ago

If you haven't yet also have a look at the old singularity endgame game: https://libregamewiki.org/Endgame:_Singularity it's a bit old and the android port doesn't work anymore, but it's pygame and shouldn't be a problem for the hn crowd to get it going.

jstanley2y ago

It seems like AI Knowledge Production and AI Wealth Production are permanently stuck at 0 since they start at 0 and the only modifiers are +X%. Maybe I'm wrong and I just wasted the +X% modifiers by spending them too early?

arvindh-manian2y ago

I believe both are a function of the number of GPUs owned. Did you buy GPUs?

px432y ago

I also didn't see those as press-able buttons until I was pretty deep into the game. UX could use some work :-)

paradite2y ago

Tangentially related:

I make "AI Simulator" games, where you use AI to run simulations of games automatically.

https://ai-simulator.com/

marcosdumay2y ago

If the author is around here, the game has system dark mode detection, but the dark theme is broken.

motoboi2y ago

Just buy gpus, don't mind waiting for big batches, just buy everything you can.

tiborsaas2y ago

Whoever made this, please add a "cursor: pointer" to clickable elements pretty please.

moffkalast2y ago

And give them a button border ffs.

tiborsaas2y ago

Crazy idea: use <button> :)

dmm2y ago

and maybe "user-select: none"? Also the "Buy Cloud Service" clickable makes the left column shift in size.

lostmsu2y ago

I mean the UX is terrible. If they used Win95-style controls it would be much more playable.

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34 comments

dreadlordbone2y ago

I got the "Universal Jump Engine" and the game reset.

littlestymaar2y ago

Strong The last question[1] vibe here.

[1] http://www.thelastquestion.net/

arvindh-manian2y ago

karmakaze2y ago

I definitely got a Universal Paperclips vibe from it (with illegible color choices).

shmapf2y ago

I don't understand why it resets at universal jump engine. Is that the end of the game, or is there some way to end up in a different state? I got to the point where that was the only option left.

sneeze-slayer2y ago

Universal jump engine with one destination: 2022

rohan_2y ago

It's very unclear what the book emoji is and how to improve it's rate of increase.

etskinner2y ago

It's the total accumulated knowledge, I think.

motoboi2y ago

human knowledge

rhinoceraptor2y ago

It's the AI Wealth statistic.

kmeisthax2y ago

(Also, why does the population start off so low? Do you know something that I don't?)

jepler2y ago

The initial population is "the US", not "the world".

yeah a warning about 'universal jump engine' would be good.

admaiora2y ago

I had no idea what it is but kinda ruined the mood for me when the game reset

tl2y ago

kmeisthax2y ago

scrumper2y ago

What is "AI Wealth" here, where's it measured? Human wealth I get, it's the money stat. Human knowledge is the book. AI IQ is self explanatory. Population, GPUs, same. So which one is AI wealth?

I enjoyed the Paperclip thing, this is similar.

mkaic2y ago

There's only one wealth and one knowledge coffer. Both AI and humanity have their own wealth and knowledge production rates linked to the number of GPUs/IQ and population, respectively.

littlestymaar2y ago

I don't think there's AI knowledge production actually, or at least that's why I assumed since we don't have a way to improve it with research unlike everything else.

scrumper2y ago

Ah thanks. Got it.

73737373732y ago

Is there a programmatic way to optimize speedruns for this kind of games? The number of steps/the size of the search space seems too large to apply a MILP solver to it

qwerty33442y ago

monte carlo or some kind of ant colony simulation probably

Leary2y ago

Started by maxing AI.

Got hit by the virus.

Maxed alignment after that.

Now in 2066 and waiting for BrainLink

avereveard2y ago

jstanley2y ago

arvindh-manian2y ago

I believe both are a function of the number of GPUs owned. Did you buy GPUs?

px432y ago

I also didn't see those as press-able buttons until I was pretty deep into the game. UX could use some work :-)

paradite2y ago

Tangentially related:

I make "AI Simulator" games, where you use AI to run simulations of games automatically.

https://ai-simulator.com/

marcosdumay2y ago

If the author is around here, the game has system dark mode detection, but the dark theme is broken.

motoboi2y ago

Just buy gpus, don't mind waiting for big batches, just buy everything you can.

tiborsaas2y ago

Whoever made this, please add a "cursor: pointer" to clickable elements pretty please.

moffkalast2y ago

And give them a button border ffs.

tiborsaas2y ago

Crazy idea: use <button> :)

dmm2y ago

and maybe "user-select: none"? Also the "Buy Cloud Service" clickable makes the left column shift in size.

lostmsu2y ago

I mean the UX is terrible. If they used Win95-style controls it would be much more playable.

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