I’m not even sure what I would do if I was in that situation, where my own government decided it was okay to spy on everyone that way. I’d probably be eying the nearest border.
People here still seem to have faith that the institutions generally work as intended.
Police stations are now fortresses, as are most of the government departments. The state has made a definite choice: the hard hand, no help, and absolute priority to their own protection. Normal crime, like theft from stores, what people want the state to work on, is not even prosecuted anymore. You'd have to steal from a big store, in the city center, while an agent is there to have any chance of getting arrested (only youngsters, whom they can arrest indefinitely without evidence and convict even when innocent, ever get persecuted. Of course, the lack of evidence standards in cases against minors raise the question exactly how often these convictions (sorry "protection measures", not convictions) are fabricated. Let's just say the relation between police and youngsters is strained for some reason).
People want this to stop, and so they want more protection of the state. The French state, of course, could be said to have been less than effective in stopping these riots and the destruction. People, including representatives, are just point blank assuming this will help the police to be effective.
That the police is the cause of the riots does not seem to make a big impression. "Do not shoot people moving away from you in the face" is clearly to much for the police to handle. When you ask people "what else would you want people to do?" there are no answers, because especially nobody wants the obvious option: another long-term national strike.
Ironically the state has done nothing but grow. This is the fundamental conflict: everyone has to "save" (especially people who can't), but not the state. With inflation people have to spend ~11% less, effectively. The state has decided their absolutely necessary expenses will not even have to return to pre-pandemic levels.
People want protection, that's why this gets approved. But the state, where they believe to get this protection, is the direct cause of most of the problems people face.
People everywhere still seem to have faith that the institutions generally work as intended.
Most have already decided it's okay, and they do it through their intelligence agencies. This is an expansion in scale through LE agencies.
Your second argument might hold but you are not providing anything. I reject the premise that criminals are more tech savvy than regular citizens.
I would be more likely to support this law if somehow i was proved it wouldn't be used against peaceful ecologists and Macron protesters.
“China could already do social scoring more more than 20 years already, it's nothing new, they are just catching up, crime these days is very well organized and tech savvy, they have to adapt somehow”
This is just "allowing" them to actually use what gets collected in court instead of having to do so much parallel construction to pretend they can't.
Curiously so far only few extreme left and extreme right sites have pointed that out loud.
Meanwhile at the Parliament a nice intervention to "limit surveillance power" for connected sex toys https://twitter.com/Ugobernalicis/status/1676639024184786958
Welcome to the Summer 2023.
>Art. L. 2212-3. – Les mesures prescrites en application des articles L. 2212-1 et L. 2212-2 sont strictement proportionnées aux objectifs poursuivis et appropriées aux circonstances de temps et de lieu. Elles ne peuvent être ordonnées qu’à défaut de tout autre moyen adéquat disponible dans un délai utile. Il y est mis fin sans délai lorsqu’elles ne sont plus nécessaires.
I guess the surprising part is that it's up to the Prime Minister to define "Emergency"?
Beside that in a Democracy only the Parliament can declare a state of emergency.
- "le fait de ne pas communiquer les codes de déverrouillage de l'appareil ou de ne pas répondre aux forces de l'ordre en cas d'interpellation ; " // to not unlock your phone when police ask for it during an arrest
- "le fait de laisser son téléphone mobile allumé à son domicile ou de le mettre en « mode avion » en arrivant sur les lieux de la manifestation pour éviter le bornage, " // leaving your phone at home and go protesting in order to prevent from being geotagged
Also, the comparison is ridiculous.
However, ID is never controlled, and many live with OQTF (Order to leave the French territory).
Source: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiffrement#En_France (in french)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=i326eNOa6Us&feature=share7
Personally, I have nothing to hide. But I enjoy hiding as much as I can for the enjoyment of the technological challenge and also the absolute "Fuck You, Forever" to those sociopaths that want to control that which they have no natural right to control.
EU is a large union of 27 countries. France is having a big authoritarian turn that started after the 2015 terror attacks, and it accelerated under Macron.
That law would certainly not pass in the majority of EU countries.
Additionally, even though I believe this law is terrible, you can't compare a for profit company collecting information on ALL its users, and a police service collecting information on a few thousands people after a judge allowed them to.
I'm not entirely sure about that. If data is legally collected by a company, who's to say the government can't legally purchase it for their own ends?
Even for a specific purpose and specified people, approved by a judge?
https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/features/story/when-edw...
It's a typical SMD MEMS microphone, yeah
> i can't find anything about it googling for "s1457 4257".
That's because "1457 4257" is that particular unit's Job Identification Number, and the "S" at the beginning indicates that it's a production unit rather than a test or sample. There's no part identifier on it.
The backdoor will most likely be provided by tools like Pegasus.
I've discussed that with ecologists and union workers/socialists extensively. I'm not victim blaming, and some were in agreement, but it was obvious that if we accepted undue policing power to investigate Muslims and anarchists, or even royalists, soon enough the state would turn against any threat to its ideology, and the ecologists saw that recently. And once again, the state was smart, and only rural ecologists were illegally detained, the student/bicycles ecologists were left alone. Niemöller still isn't studied enough in Europe it seems.
To this day Robert Paxton's works on Vichy France are still seen by many inside France as "controversial" and what have you, so measures like this one here are just what you'd expect coming from "republican" France.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-police-use-of-nso-spywa...
a while ago we had protest 'yellow vest' and protest against retirement age the government used police to massively destroy the people that were protesting many were left with lifelong disabilities. then we had the covid confinement where we had to have a paper to go out and average citizen where hunted and assaulted for not respecting it. and now we have people rioting and breaking businesses, hurting others in the streets with nothing to stop them.
it just doesnt make sense. to me it sounds like we are becoming a dictature where lies are pushed as facts, riots are pushed by the state and entertained to scare the average citizen, surveillance state is controlling us and any kind of protest is severely dealt with. france is becoming scary under macron. just like canada with trudeau, those two guys, young leaders that corrupt journalist pushed and love even tho they represent everything wrong in our country, those two 'modern leaders' they used wokism and green washing to move us further away from real democracies like switzerland. now we are a pink dictature.
Amazing.
