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0 pointstomohawk2y ago0 comments

Instead of that, they could mandate meters on the charging stations that add a surcharge to the electricity. That would be less invasive, and be analogous to how they collect usage fees by taxing gas.

There is a general legal principle that the state must use the least intrusive means to accomplish a goal. A lawsuit might force a change.

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otherme1232y ago

In my country you pay an anual fee for having a vehicle, like property tax but for vehicles. The larger the vehicle, more you pay, discount if you have an EV (no emissions). It's not that difficult.

midasuni2y ago

Which is crazy. Use a car for 500 miles a year you pay the same as someone using it for 50,000 miles a year

Just charge on the odometer reading each year. 3p a mile or whatever. Maybe charge more based on weight.

verve_rat2y ago

Which is basically what we do in NZ. We have Road User Charges (RUC) that you buy in advance. We put road tax on petrol, so petrol vehicles don't pay RUCs. But no road tax on diesel, because tractors and other machinery that doesn't go on public roads. So we just extend the same RUC system for diesel vehicles to EVs.

(But not yet because we were incentivising EV up take. RUCs for EVs will be required in 2024 I believe.)

consp2y ago

Power and fuel are still taxed on usage basis. There is no real difference except that road maintenance is also funded by a basic fee. It's a two way system.

Robotbeat2y ago

Except you can charge from every single outlet.

tomohawkOP2y ago

Sounds like tax evasion.

You still need a charger/adapter between the outlet and the vehicle. Perhaps build the meter into the vehicles charging port.

Robotbeat2y ago

You have got to be kidding me. Next you’ll say that properly inflating your tires is “tax evasion” because you’ll burn less gas.

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0 pointstomohawk2y ago0 comments

There is a general legal principle that the state must use the least intrusive means to accomplish a goal. A lawsuit might force a change.

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otherme1232y ago

In my country you pay an anual fee for having a vehicle, like property tax but for vehicles. The larger the vehicle, more you pay, discount if you have an EV (no emissions). It's not that difficult.

midasuni2y ago

Which is crazy. Use a car for 500 miles a year you pay the same as someone using it for 50,000 miles a year

Just charge on the odometer reading each year. 3p a mile or whatever. Maybe charge more based on weight.

verve_rat2y ago

(But not yet because we were incentivising EV up take. RUCs for EVs will be required in 2024 I believe.)

consp2y ago

Power and fuel are still taxed on usage basis. There is no real difference except that road maintenance is also funded by a basic fee. It's a two way system.

Robotbeat2y ago

Except you can charge from every single outlet.

tomohawkOP2y ago

Sounds like tax evasion.

You still need a charger/adapter between the outlet and the vehicle. Perhaps build the meter into the vehicles charging port.

Robotbeat2y ago

You have got to be kidding me. Next you’ll say that properly inflating your tires is “tax evasion” because you’ll burn less gas.

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