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0 pointsArnavion3y ago0 comments

They could just fork the sysv-generator and continue maintaining it.

(Generators are arbitrary programs that generate systemd units at runtime dynamically. Eg fstab-generator parses /etc/fstab and generates .mount units. The sysv-generator generates a .service unit for each sysv init script it finds, and is what is being removed here. https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/src/sysv-genera... )

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yjftsjthsd-h3y ago· 2 in thread

Of course, that begs the question of why it's being removed in the first place; if it's really that modular, it shouldn't be any effort to maintain.

ilyt3y ago

The answer is they don't want to be ones maintaining it; after majority of distros migrated it's just a wasted effort on their part.

Distros that use it can maintain it for their needs; it's pretty logical.

There is very little reason for distro to support systemd and support sysv scripts.

I am surprised it comes from red hat to be honest, if anything I'd imagine them needing it for some legacy software their customers use that might come only with init scripts.

Then again, in most cases rewriting init script to run as systemd unit is very straightforward; but then I saw some fucked up init scripts too, like ones trying to start and manage multiple services at once (here hearthy "fuck you" to packetfence developer that thought that would be a good idea)

yjftsjthsd-h3y ago

> it's just a wasted effort on their part

I guess my naive expectation is that it should be any effort, hence the question.

> Then again, in most cases rewriting init script to run as systemd unit is very straightforward; but then I saw some fucked up init scripts too, like ones trying to start and manage multiple services at once (here hearthy "fuck you" to packetfence developer that thought that would be a good idea)

LOL, now you've triggered an old memory of IBM WebSphere MQ and its... charming init scripts. It was almost easy to replace them with service files, except that IIRC template unit files can only use one variable to template and we needed two, so I did something ugly. (I don't even remember what, just the gross feeling.)

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henearkr3y ago

I'd even dare say: it'll be safer in other hands.

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