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0 pointssteveklabnik2y ago0 comments

> Nobody, and maybe that’s my real point

To be honest, this is what I've taken away from this conversation so far: it doesn't seem like anything will satisfy your desires here.

> which is why I’d like some metrics to supplement the anecdotes

This conversation started with you not liking that the measure of quality is subjective, which is fine. How would you objectively measure code quality though? What metrics would you have preferred to see, other than the ones in this post?

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bigyikes2y ago

I’m confused by your line of questioning. Why do you think I can’t be satisfied?

I don’t have a problem with this Google poll. I think it is valuable.

What would satisfy my desires is exactly what I stated in my original comment: something more objective, like defect rates of Rust code bases compared to non-Rust ones. Metrics like these have their owns problems, but would be a nice supplement to the opinion-based poll.

Neither the objective metrics, nor the opinion poll can provide a complete picture, and neither is a substitute for the other. Both would be awesome.

steveklabnikOP2y ago

Because you said

> It’s still a relatively new and niche language, so, yes.

If nobody is able to give a non-partisan reply, I don't see how you could ever be satisfied.

> like defect rates of Rust code bases compared to non-Rust ones.

Cool, thanks. That does seem like one that is more objective, though there are confounding factors in that too, because sometimes defects lurk without being detected. This stuff is hard!

Google did put out something about this specifically on Rust (and others) use in Android, by the way, you might find that interesting: https://security.googleblog.com/2022/12/memory-safe-language...

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