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0 pointsnoduerme14y ago0 comments

Ah, so if the ends justify the means then there's no one qualified to question the method? Why not diagnose demonic possession and write a prescription for drowning? Who's to doubt the ethics of the method if it's "effective"?

And "effective" by whose measure, anyway? A husband who wants his wife to "act normal"? The health establishment? You?

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jff14y ago· 2 in thread

You're right, he should have let his wife be herself and just commit suicide.

noduermeOP14y ago

You're assuming facts not in evidence.

nknight14y ago

You're demonstrating a clear ignorance of what clinical depression is.

brazzy14y ago· 2 in thread

Ah, so you haven't.

noduermeOP14y ago

I think this goes to the point of the article. You bring up "clinical depression" and immediately say that the ethics of an "effective" therapy shouldn't or can't be brought into question. At what point are mere mortals no longer allowed to question the ethics of a form of therapy...right when depression is diagnosed by a clinician? Or does your experience with depressives you know make it okay to electroshock anybody if those are the shrink's orders? If that's your view then you certainly fall well within the authoritarian camp, and it's ironic how little you took away from the article.

brazzy14y ago

I think your loaded rhetorics are entirely divorced from reality in this point; You're painting this picture of an evil conspiracy between an authoritarian establishment and intolerant relatives using draconian brainwashing measures to attack any minor deviation from a questionable norm.

In reality, clinical depression is a condition that causes great suffering to the patient and their loved ones, and massively changes their personality (to a state where they lose all will to live). It is not something easily misdiagnosed or confused with any state anyone would want to be in.

Any effective therapy will not be questioned by anyone because the patient is too happy about getting back their ability to enjoy life, and their relatives about seeing them turn back into the person they were before.

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