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0 pointsgeerlingguy3y ago0 comments

Yeah... had it not been for CentOS, I would've never touched anything in the RHEL-side of things after I discovered Ubuntu in the 10/12 era.

Because CentOS existed, I made sure most of my open source work would run just as well on all RHEL derivatives as it does on Debian.

If Rocky didn't exist, I would quickly drop all my RHEL support because operating thousands of test machines and containers based on UBI and having to keep up with their licensing game would cost too much of my time.

Rocky and Alma are the only reason devs like me still build anything for RHEL.

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prmoustache3y ago· 5 in thread

I'd have to check if it is still the case but RHEL has provided free developer licenses for RHEL for years (decades?).

EDIT: checked and it still exist and allow usage of up to 16 physical or virtual nodes for development " to develop software (including open source software), perform prototyping or quality assurance testing and/or for demonstration purposes.

yrro3y ago

You can also use them for production. Scroll to the bottom of https://sso.redhat.com/auth/realms/redhat-external/protocol/... and follow the link to the terms & conditions:

> The Individual Developer Subscriptions allow you (as an individual, natural person) to use certain Red Hat Subscription Services in connection with Red Hat Software for Individual Development Use and for Individual Production Use subject to these Program Terms at no cost.

> “Individual Production Use” means any use other than for Individual Development Use including, but not limited to, using the Software (a) in a production environment, (b) with live data and/or applications and/or (c) for backup instances

Red Hat also have a no-cost Developer Subscription for Teams agreement for organizations.

g8oz3y ago

And those conditions are exactly what the OP meant by a licensing game.

prmoustache3y ago

There is notting in Jeff Geerling's project list[1] that warrant hundred's of rhel machines and containers at any given time.

Containers are mostly ephemerals when used for build and test purpose.

[1] https://www.jeffgeerling.com/projects

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znpy3y ago

It’s a fairly recent thing though

prmoustache3y ago

It has been a thing for the last 5 years at the very least.

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