I trusted signal in part due to his persona. And his in your face attitude towards that one company that provided software to law enforcement that claimed to hack signal.
> After over a decade spent creating Signal, Moxie has departed to focus on new efforts. As the founder of Signal, the work he did and the organization he built are the reason Signal exists. We are infinitely grateful. He remains a friend and a core part of the Signal legacy
Safe travels to Moxie. I look forward to seeing what he builds next.
I suspect it would be some approximation of “no longer his”. I can understand your frustration but this kind of message is likely only to exacerbate his.
I am requesting a statement from someone that has been very outspoken on many issues around secure, safe, private communication in the past and is in a better position than any of us to follow up on his advocacy.
He has had a very strong effect on the ecosystem including explicitly denigrating non-centralized efforts like the Matrix ecosystem (to the detriment of these non-US controlled systems supported by the French and Germans who had reason to be cautious in the wake of the Snowden revelations).
As someone who has had a significant impact in this area he owes us. Otherwise we can all draw our own conclusions.
Yeah, uh huh.
Good analysis tho
I mean Signal is worse than Mastodon in adoption as of today and it had so so many opportunities wasted on things that were never needed (in fact those efforts should have been categorically avoided) and a lot effort was also wasted on not doing things that should have been done. Hope that changes as well with his departure. Or I’ll rather see Signal put out of its misery in a kind and quick way.
Sounds wonderful for a messaging system that is going to be definitely trusted not to be manipulated by the USA.
This is where whatsapp just excels
Last I checked, that was Android only. And the password they periodically ask for is your PIN, which is unrelated to your backup password.
So if we are being honest - it really doesn’t matter.
There are lots of useful apps you can build atop e2ee messaging: location sharing, payments, group chats, secret sharing, etc.
This was the only method available of doing payments inside the app in a way that met their product requirements.
It's fine to not like cryptocurrency; it's intellectually dishonest to accuse every project of crime without evidence.
0: https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/04/06/it-looks-like-signa... (source was published shortly after the publication of that article)
1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26715013 (comment from founder of MobileCoin)
2: https://www.theverge.com/22249391/signal-app-abuse-messaging...
I agree the crypto was stupid. But, it was a product of the times, and I believe it grew (from scant evidence) out of concern about independent funding longterm for the project. It didn't work: it rebounded badly.
I use signal every day. I'm glad it exists, I'm glad he did the work. I like Meredith, and I think the new board needs to be given time to bed in and for us to see how things eventuate.
Good for privacy?
But to be fair that's the person in charge of policy, so it's the kind of profile you'd expect. (Of course, you're free to argue that a messaging application has no good reason to hire for such a position in the first place.)
Let's be fair: there's a big difference between "this person has worked in or near the federal government" and "this person has literally committed war crimes".
If there are specific concerns about the people on Signal's board, I'd be interested in hearing it, but having Fed connections doesn't inherently mean a whole lot.
Obviously anecdotal, but almost all my friends and family are still using it, and usage has increased compared to SMS or other options.
99% of my messages are sent on Signal with 100ish contacts including all bar two of my friends who I message regularly. But I would never think to suggest my anecdotal evidence is the norm.
