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0 pointsrecursive3y ago0 comments

Ask me about the time I tried to put a song on my Apple™ iPod. It was sufficiently customer-hostile that I there's not enough futuristic technology to get me to try Apple again. Something about it requires iTunes, but iTunes sucked for various reasons. I had another way to work around it, but they patched it out in a firmware update. The no-name music players had a better UI. (just drag and drop)

Apple doesn't get it right all the time.

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shortcake273y ago· 4 in thread

These are very different scenarios though.

iTunes wasn’t a secret. Apple didn’t bait you. It was well known you needed to use iTunes.

On Android you have regular apps that turn into Malware. Samsung will sell you a phone/TV then introduce/increase the amount of ads/malware with a software update.

The problem isn’t that there are ads. The problem is that the ads are introduced after you’ve already purchased it. This doesn’t happen with Apple, and that’s something many people value more than being locked into a walled garden.

recursiveOP3y ago

Yes. If I had done some research I probably could have learned how terrible iTunes was in advance. I guess it was really my fault all along.

theshrike793y ago

The difference here is that on Apple you can do the research figure out it's OK to use.

On Android with pre-loaded software you can to the research up front, figure out everything is OK and BOOM a year later you're getting ads from a non-removable application.

justinclift3y ago

> iTunes wasn’t a secret. Apple didn’t bait you. It was well known you needed to use iTunes.

Only if you were already in the Apple ecosystem.

Many years ago a coworker was gifted one of the more basic iPods, which was his first experience with the Apple ecosystem. It didn't go terribly badly, but I do remember him not knowing about iTunes at the time.

ilyt3y ago

Yeah but that's Samsung problem, not Android problem.

7thaccount3y ago

Lol I remember that. Back when the iPhone came out I was super confused why I had to use the awful iTunes and why it took literal hours to load songs to my phone when my buddy could just drag and drop to his mp3 player.

yieldcrv3y ago

In 2005 about 20 years ago right?

well you’ll be elated to know that not much has changed on that front, except that generations of people now don't really care for self-custody of music. Compressed formats are good enough, streaming is good enough, and stored formats in walled gardens are good enough.

There is some burgeoning sentiment that some music is disappeared from the face of the earth, but nobody really cares.

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