Elizabeth Holmes: Inside the Routine at the Federal Prison Camp in Bryan, Texas (opens in new tab)

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15 pointsbatguano2y ago16 comments

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I really don't get why people are obsessed with every aspect of this case, down to Holmes' daily routine in prison. She's gone to prison and will stay there for a long time, case closed. She's even lucky she ended up in a relatively good prison, not the hellholes called USPs that violent offenders go to.

thenewwazoo2y ago

My pet theory (and this will probably trigger a lot of people) is that it's because she's a woman. She did some particularly heinous stuff, but the US consciousness seems to have an appetite to see disgraced women in power suffer. Martha Stewart is another example that comes to mind.

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Ancalagon2y ago

Its because a billionaire went to prison. The justice system finally has teeth again.

boeingUH602y ago

*Fake paper billionaire went to prison. All that thin air billions evaporated as soon as Theranos was exposed.

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onemoresoop2y ago

Yeah but if you look at the conditions of that prison you'll think twice about that. The fact that white collar crime gets a slap on the wrist incentivizes more white collar crime.

Anarch157a2y ago

Only because the victims in this case were billionaires too. Remember, she was convicted for defrauding investors, not because of the harm she done to poor patients.

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kuczmama2y ago

To be fair, she also stole money from other billionaires... so the system has teeth if you steal money from other rich people

tjpnz2y ago

It's because people are sick and tired of the wealthy committing crimes and getting away with it either entirely, or receiving only a slap on the wrist.

exolymph2y ago

People are generally interested in what happens to celebrities / public figures.

CrampusDestrus2y ago

I don't know if 11 years is a proper sentence for what she did, but it makes me wonder about all the others who defrauded even more and just got a slap on the wrist

FigurativeVoid2y ago

I have always felt that the 11 year sentence seemed a bit heavy-handed.

I try to think "At what number would I have been upset." For example, 6 months would have been nothing. 25 years would be too much.

I start to think the sentence that make sense is around 7-8 years. But I didn't have money in it, so what do I know.

FigurativeVoid2y ago

I have always been interested in routines in general, and the prison routines of some famous people (political prisoners etc) can be fascinating.

This doesn't seem to present anything special and is more "we read the prison's handbook."

mukundmohan2y ago

I have been to prison. No matter what they say it is a violent place. Even the “minimum security” ones.

You don’t get to choose your prison. You don’t get to choose your bunk mate. They are racially segregated and there is a pecking order.

She did get a larger than expected sentence. Probably to send an example. I can say. But I believe judges are adversely affected by media as well.

Over 2 million of the 20 Million PPP loans were fraudulent but fewer than 100 people went to prison.

Simulacra2y ago

Can wealthy people influence where they are placed?

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boeingUH602y ago

thenewwazoo2y ago

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Ancalagon2y ago

Its because a billionaire went to prison. The justice system finally has teeth again.

boeingUH602y ago

*Fake paper billionaire went to prison. All that thin air billions evaporated as soon as Theranos was exposed.

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onemoresoop2y ago

Yeah but if you look at the conditions of that prison you'll think twice about that. The fact that white collar crime gets a slap on the wrist incentivizes more white collar crime.

Anarch157a2y ago

Only because the victims in this case were billionaires too. Remember, she was convicted for defrauding investors, not because of the harm she done to poor patients.

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kuczmama2y ago

To be fair, she also stole money from other billionaires... so the system has teeth if you steal money from other rich people

tjpnz2y ago

It's because people are sick and tired of the wealthy committing crimes and getting away with it either entirely, or receiving only a slap on the wrist.

exolymph2y ago

People are generally interested in what happens to celebrities / public figures.

CrampusDestrus2y ago

I don't know if 11 years is a proper sentence for what she did, but it makes me wonder about all the others who defrauded even more and just got a slap on the wrist

FigurativeVoid2y ago

I have always felt that the 11 year sentence seemed a bit heavy-handed.

I try to think "At what number would I have been upset." For example, 6 months would have been nothing. 25 years would be too much.

I start to think the sentence that make sense is around 7-8 years. But I didn't have money in it, so what do I know.

FigurativeVoid2y ago

I have always been interested in routines in general, and the prison routines of some famous people (political prisoners etc) can be fascinating.

This doesn't seem to present anything special and is more "we read the prison's handbook."

mukundmohan2y ago

I have been to prison. No matter what they say it is a violent place. Even the “minimum security” ones.

You don’t get to choose your prison. You don’t get to choose your bunk mate. They are racially segregated and there is a pecking order.

She did get a larger than expected sentence. Probably to send an example. I can say. But I believe judges are adversely affected by media as well.

Over 2 million of the 20 Million PPP loans were fraudulent but fewer than 100 people went to prison.

Simulacra2y ago

Can wealthy people influence where they are placed?

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse