Now they look more like prophets. That world is increasingly the world we live in. The question becomes, how can we stay sane in that world? How can we find enough actual truth (truth that is actually true, true in the old sense of corresponding to the reality of what is) in order to function? To function as individuals, and to function as a society? How do we deal with this?
Think fake instagram accounts with images, coercing and shaming victims for personal revenge. Shady companies selling fake stories supported by fake pictures of "satisfied" users. Influencers and celebrities making themselves look younger, prettier, fuller.
you see anyone who wants to spin a web of lies, AI as a tool makes it easier, possible and in som cases unavoidable.
A couple weeks ago when the Patriot Front had a white supremacist rally and march in front of the Washington Monument (now of the "red bike guy" fame), many prominent right wing Twitter talking heads tweeted that it must be a left wing conspiracy to make conservatives look bad and that the marchers were federal agents, despite 0 evidence of this, and indeed despite plenty of evidence that they were just actual Patriot Front members. It was difficult for me to tell if they actually believed that fairy tale, or of they felt that it didn't really matter because they knew if they shouted "fake news" loud enough they could get enough like minded people to upvote it.
Some doors were maybe better left unopened, we opened this one. Let's see how it goes.
The truth came out this time. To borrow from Ozark: this isn't the only time they doctored photos, it's the only time they got caught.
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/2/twitter-fulfillin...
We're likely going to see a few cases like this that take off while people are adapting, but this naivete won't last forever. There will always be a few gullible people, but, just like with Photoshop, we'll get to the point where most people understand what's possible and adapt their reactions accordingly.
Before that media was written text and everyone knows anyone can make up anything they want in that domain. Before that most people were illiterate so it didn’t matter much. Media wasn’t even much of a thing.
We are headed for the post-media era when any arbitrary piece of media depicting anything can be created for little or no money by anyone with a computer. Nothing can be believed unless you were there or hear it from a known reliable source that was there.
There’s going to be an ugly transition period when we have tons of people who haven’t gotten this memo yet. These people are going to be manipulated en masse with tremendous effectiveness. The push to deplatform misinformation is largely an attempt to stop this, but I think it’s futile. People just have to learn that media is dead and they can’t trust anything anymore.
Hunter Thompson was ahead of his time. The only journalism worth doing in this future is individual gonzo journalism where you go and experience and tell the tale directly to your audience. That of course is vulnerable to spin by the teller, but so are all tales. It’s the best we have. Hopefully honest tellers of first hand tales will exist and get the reputation for honesty they deserve.
This is also about as long as we’ve had popular democracy. (Something like a fifth of Indians are functionally illiterate [1][2].)
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_India
[2] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363173220_LITERACY_....
It will require a significant mental shift to now question practically every single piece of audiovisual content.
Maybe _you_ do that, but I would not generalize, and I would not necessarily think I’m always capable of doing that myself “by default”
> Verified account @randomsena tweeted the same image
> Another verified account, @RealAtulsay, tweeted the same image
Isn't "Verified" on Twitter just a subscription now, meaning it's just that these people have given Twitter money? Why it matters (in a journalistic sense) who has paid Twitter or not? And why are only some of the verified accounts mentioned as verified accounts, while others are verified but not mentioned as verified?
Such a weird article overall.
This is how BJP government uses public money to run troll campaigns on social media against opposition leaders. [1]
Possibly hundreds or thousands of persons or "journalists" are getting funds from government to abuse the opposition leaders.
[1] https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/exclusive-silver-touch-behin...
This is the exact main problem with paid Verification. Blue tweets surface to the top, disproportionate to the attention they actually receive, meaning you're more likely to see them. You're effectively paying for attention.
I’m sure the government of India can make as many numbers and cards as they want, but the problem is still that Twitter can know who issued both and a lot of information about them, including if they’re burner numbers. It still helps tremendously
Your account must have no signs of being misleading or deceptive
Your account must have no signs of engaging in platform manipulation and spam
So Twitter is telling us that those accounts should not be deceiving. Yet, they are.
https://help.twitter.com/en/managing-your-account/about-twit...
If you're running an article on how the India ruling party used AI to paint protestors in a false light, it isn't relevant. Worse bringing attention to it like this could give less-informed readers the false impression that "verified" actually meant something like "verified by the government".
Whenever I see blue tick accounts now, I notice most of them have <1000 followers and have no authority in the subject matter and I ignore most of them. I have noticed a lot of right-wing handles, all having the blue tick and getting priority on spreading their misinformation as it was in this case.
Elon has broken the verified system on purpose to fit his new anti-government / anti-"woke" agenda.
It doesn't matter what people say on 4chan or fox "news", why is twitter any different?
It's all just opinions, not worth anyone's time. Ignore it.
For my understanding the purpose was to help newcomers to distinguish @realDonaldTrump with @veryRealTrump. It is supposed to prevent impersonating, but that’s just a shift of trust from your own judgement to the Twitter chosen fraud algorithm or whatever method they choose. Can’t see how 10$ add more credibility.
They pretends to the majority Hindu public that "Hindus are in danger from Muslims" and only BJP can protect them. They also project themselves as true nationalists and anyone having anti-government views is declared a "Pakistani" or anti-national.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/7/spike-in-anti-muslim...
- India is the fastest growing large economy in the world
- inflation is under control
- The infrastructure spend is the largest ever. There's construction everywhere.
- life expectancy is significantly up
Of course there are issues, but it's a mixed bag. Not all religion.
If there was one, how much "development" has that party achieved when in power?
They use this strategy to stay in power. And that's supposed to be approved by the Very Ethical Western Media and White Intellectuals.
What hypocrites you lot are.
Next year the Trump fear mongering will start again.
And the Liberal Sheep on HN will get their panties in a bunch crying about how unsafe they are while earning a few 100k $ per year.
When the entire Left bootlickers like Al Jazeera, CNN, NYT were criticizing the Indian Govt in 2020 onwards - They laid the foundation for growth.
When your America is going broke and again increasing it's Debt Ceiling to pay for the survival of the populace, India is the fastest growing Economy in the world.
A Billion Indians can decide who to vote for. Don't need some entitles White guys and their brown lackeys in BBC, Al Jazeera to come and tell us how to lead their lives.
If your White Intellectuals had any capability your entire Western Economies wouldn't be in doldrums.
The wisest thing Western Economists are capable of is increasing the Debt Ceiling repeatedly and printing money.
Then bribe the dumb populace with welfare to vote for the same govt again.
The bigger driving thing is that the party in power has two massive things in their favour: widespread economic growth and prosperity.
While India mostly runs through coalition politics, there are two broad bands: the nationalist religious-fundamentalist market-economics band and the high-regulation nominally-secular band.
It's quite nuanced, but ultimately, India has raised 400 million out of poverty in the last 20 years, electrified vastly, and built rail and road infrastructure at a crucial moment in their demographic transition.
The resulting goodwill is of the "it's about the economy, stupid" sense but also a national feeling that perhaps the "others" were, after all, "holding us back" because the current opposition presided over a period of administration over many decades where setting up businesses required paying off the right guy, etc.
To make it worse, the opposition coalition head is a dynastic scion who is not very smart.
So, the shift to the right is natural because the right is the only one giving them anything.
https://fpif.org/fascisms-global-spread-is-real-as-real-as-t...
The current party, the BJP, has strong roots in Hindu nationalism. It’s basically taken over a decade but they’ve successfully distorted the promise enshrined in our national anthem of an India for all.
P.S Not an Indian so Idk how they appeared on my feed.
“Hindutva is understood as a way of life of state of mind and is not to be equated with or understood as religious Hindu fundamentalism…it is a fallacy and error of law to proceed on the assumption…that the use of words Hindutva or Hinduism per se depicts an attitude hostile to all persons practicing any religion other than the Hindu religion.”
Successful republics appear to waver between stable liberalism and dynamic authoritarianism. We were relatively authoritarian in the Pinkerton and New Deal eras. Modi is delivering on a proven enthnonationalism liberal-economic playbook. It’s hard to argue against fattening pocketbooks and rising living standards.
You mean Adani's? [1]
[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/profiles/gautam-s-ada...
Between the politics and the pollution in Delhi, I fear I can never really return home.
The last time I was home, I was struggling every day to breathe because Delhi has crazy air in the winter. While high school friends were telling me about how they don’t believe in equal rights, justifying any means to achieving a Hindu country. This is just one more nail in the coffin of a potentially great, secular country that once dared to v̵o̵t̵e̵ place a g̵r̵e̵a̵t̵ scientist as president. How far we’ve fallen since.
I’m just heartbroken over what my country has become.
Edit: for the countless fans of India that will show up to tell me how to feel about the country, please don’t. I really don’t care to hear the latest talking point on why Infrastructure is worth human rights abuses or whatever lets you sleep at night. My opinion is my own and you can please pound sand. You are part of what makes me mourn my country.
The ban on crop burning (main cause of Delhi's pollution) was central to the farm bill. But protesting farmers (widely supported in the west) opposed it, and the bill died despite having democratic approval (both national opinion and sufficient votes)
> dared to vote a great scientist to president
We do not vote for Presidents in India. The president was selected by the ruling party (The same BJP as Modi) to be the ceremonial president. The same one that has now elected a tribal woman to President, to signify secular allegiances.
> believe in equal rights
If we are to use leaders as a yardstick to measure equality opportunities and rights, then the incompetent ~6th generation heir of the Nehru/Gandhi family leading the opposition is hardly a good look.
> disappointed by the country I called home for most of my life
As a fellow NRI, this is counter to what I hear from my fellow Indians. There is a ton of optimism around jobs, infrastructure growth and economic policies that are finally opening up the nation, as India embraces the US after decades spent close to the Russia.
> potentially great, secular country
Even as a big supporter of liberal (as in valuing liberty, low authoritarianism) democracies, the evidence for free-democracies industrializing is exactly zero. Every big nation that has successfully escaped poverty has done so through suffocatingly authoritarian means (SK, Japan, Taiwan, Chile, China, Thailand, Malaysia). Every single one of them only transitioned to a proper liberal democracy (if at all) AFTER industrialization had been achieved.
It is depressing. But, the numbers don't lie.
I don’t think I agree with your other points. But I do hope your optimism pans out because right now things feel bleak.
The fact that they are elected by electoral college does not make them non-democratic or non-elected. We live in a representative democracy.
> As a fellow NRI, this is counter to what I hear from my fellow Indians. There is a ton of optimism around jobs, infrastructure growth and economic policies that are finally opening up the nation
One wouldn't rely on anecdotal evidence to justify policy. For example my own experience is the opposite of yours. I hear complains about unemployment, lack of safety for women, cost of living crisis, lack of safety of Muslims.
> Every big nation that has successfully escaped poverty has done so through suffocatingly authoritarian means
Just because others failed doesn't mean we should too. Keep in Mind that the Republic of India has survived until now, and people at it's inception said it wouldn't.
>> The ban on crop burning (main cause of Delhi's pollution) was central to the farm bill.
Crop burning is already outlawed in India and enforced with fines. Why you need to make a new law for something which is already illegal? Below was the actual central idea of the farm bill:
"The laws would have deregulated a system of government-run wholesale markets, allowing farmers to sell directly to food processors, but farmers feared that this would result in the end of government-guaranteed price floors, thereby reducing the prices they would receive for their crops."[1]
>> We do not vote for Presidents in India.
Again, wrong. The 2022 Indian presidential election was held on 18 July 2022 to elect the president of India. The election was the 16th presidential election in India since the Partition. [2]
>> incompetent ~6th generation heir of the Nehru/Gandhi family
Source please?
>> There is a ton of optimism around jobs, infrastructure growth and economic policies
Source please? You must be living in an alternate world.
>> Every single one of them only transitioned to a proper liberal democracy
So, China is a "proper liberal democracy" as per you? Also can you please share a source to support your claims?
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Indian_agriculture_acts
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Indian_presidential_elect...
Then why is Delhi's air quality consistently poor, unhealthy, severe and hazardous even when there is no crop burning? https://www.aqi.in/us/dashboard/india/delhi/new-delhi
Of course we need to do something about crop burning, but is it the "main" reason? Nope.
It is easy to shit on the party in office which is BJP right now but show me a country that can have hundreds of languages, all religions and still survive for centuries as one country. Europe couldn't do it. They broke into EU (for better or worse). There are flaws but India is a complex country of various cultures and you have to understand the nuances.
Congress party ruled India for decades after Independence in 1947 and all they could do was to keep India as a 3rd world country while other similar countries progressed economically. Fun fact: Until the early 1980s, India and China were same econonically when COngress ruled India for decades. And talk about authoritarianism ? Who was the one who declared emergency in 1974 and suspended all "civil rights". That was Indira Gandhi from Congress, the so called "secular" party.
My point is that there is no saint and people in india like BJP because they are at least doing some work in various areas including infrastructure, economy and areas that have been neglected for decades. So yea, people wanted change and they got change with Modi as a strong leader.
Source: Also an NRI who is a naturalized US Citizen and I see a lot of positives among all the negatives that Media loves to portray.
I think NRIs are praising Modi because he is helping with the fall of Rupee as compared to other currencies so NRIs get maximum return when they send home USD.
Will you be able to share some examples of "at least doing some work in various areas"?
1. I see BJP government as expert in data manipulator and creating smoke screens through their network of social media cell and mainstream TV channels. [1]
2. As per Govt data, over 80 crore people in India currently depend upon government for free food. [2]
3. Modi government manipulated the GDP calculation method to show higher GDP growth. [3]
4. Modi government changed the calculation method to measure the length of highways. Going by lane km, the total length of highways constructed during 2017-18 fiscal comes to 34,378 km as against 9829 km if counted linearly. [4]
[1] https://zeenews.india.com/india/get-maths-lessons-bjp-faces-...
[2] https://www.livemint.com/news/india/over-80-crore-people-to-...
[3] https://scroll.in/article/954986/the-daily-fix-is-modi-gover...
[4] https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/now-new-concept-to...
I have no idea what you’re referring to here. Europe has never been one country, and will likely never be. Having smaller countries isn’t something bad, nobody would consider multiple Europeans countries to be a failure, or the result of a broken Europe. Even proponents of a United States of Europe (I am one) don’t see having multiple European countries as a failure.
When was Europe one country?
You have drunk the koolaid, my friend.
India became 'India' in 1947. Before that (and even now) it was exactly like Europe ... many languages and cultures and food very very different from each other (ask a Naga what he has in common with Tamilians or Kashmiris), a large shared Hindu ethos similar to how Christianity was a common factor for Europe) and lots of warring kings with their own territories. There was no "Indian" identity.
About Congress ... no defence about their fuckups. But don't be so dismissive about what they accomplished. I say this as no fan of Indira Gandhi.
Remember that India had become free after 200 years of enslavement and harm to our self-image, from being one of the world's richest areas to the poorest, and millions of lives had been torn asunder under partition.
In Congress's era, esp. Jawaharlal Nehru's time, we got a beautiful constitution, the premier institutions and facilities (TIFR, IISc, IITs, FTII, BARC, AIIMS), developed a massive power infrastructure with hydel and nuclear, became a nuclear strong power, developed an in-house rocket and satellite program etc. It had a strong court system; recall that Indra Gandhi was thrown out by the Allahabad supreme court on electoral fixing.
Manmohan Singh was (and is) a learned economist who righted many of IG's fuckups. He led the 1991 reforms. A large large portion of the projects that Modi has lent his beaming face to were fully funded and started in the Manmohan era (Chandrayaan, Mangalyaan, Atal tunnel, UPI, Aadhar, so many airports and highways). The Modi govt has been successful in rebranding all of them in his image, but don't be fooled.
I can give you a huge laundry list of things that are terrible under Modi. The COVID response, the complete takeover of august institutions by deranged Hindus, the complete submission of the media, the complete takeover of massive projects by a few crony friends (a profitable and well-run Mumbai airport was taken over by Adani, who literally had zero experience in running airports, with no formal publicly transparent process). The "PM Cares" fund, which every single govt employee and every corporate was FORCED to hand over money too, apparently is not a fund of the govt; there is no transparency about how much money has been collected, let alone spent where. I could go on about how every minority (Dalits, Muslims, tribals) have been rogered.
Yeah, Indira Gandhi wasn’t great either. Congress has its flaws.
None of that justifies the actions of today. Yes, the BJP has done some good things, but that’s true of many heinous authoritarians in the past as well.
No number of good things simply wash their hands of the bad stuff along the way.
People are crying all over every conceivable media about how racial, sexual, financial discrimination is taking place.
Millionaire celebrities are 'Victims' of a variety of abuse - Racial, Sexual etc etc
People getting randomly shot in a shootout every other day.
Stores can't stay open due to getting robbed as it's 'legally' allowed.
Kids can't pay loans for college, people are barely living thanks to shtty minimum wage.
Seems like it's common for people to sh*t on the roads in San Francisco.
Kids education becoming sub standard thanks to politicians.
Most of the West seems to be heading in the same direction.
Since you see are obviously comfortable in that environment. Please don't come back.
You can remain heartbroken in the West.
While I believe it's ok to discuss politics on HN, my view is that accounts that exist solely for political propaganda should be discouraged.
1: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=throwaway384629
The article btw is of questionable newsworthiness; and is a link to a propoganda blog. It's not really an accredited news organization.
Even if political, I personally expect better on HN.
I think AI manipulation of public opinion is a great topic for HN, IMNSHO
This is among many that I have seen gain traction that are politicized.
I believe the moderator sees no issues when the articles pertain to India.
I mean rsa 2048 can be currently broken in 104 days, and we'll be at quantum levels sooner than we realize.
How we validating anything after that? Biometric?
Only if one has a sufficiently-large fault-tolerant quantum computer with 10,000 qubits and 2.23 trillion quantum gates [0]. Which is currently an unachivium.
[0] https://www.itnews.com.au/news/quantum-computers-wont-break-...
What happens is the information is creatively formed in the mind of the receiver, by the receiver, in all cases.
In other words, people form an explanation for the observation in their minds and judge it compared to other competing explanations.
So instead of the post-truth, doom-and-gloom world that you fear, another possible outcome is that people get better at forming or identifying good explanatory knowledge. In other words, the bar for what you call truth actually goes up and people get smarter.
An example of this happening would be door-to-door sales people. They basically no longer exist. Because people learned not to answer the door when a random person knocks.
The old explanation “someone I want to talk to is here to see me” got replaced with a new better explanation of “some time wasting stranger is probably at the door.”
I don't think it is as simple as replacing one explanation with another (like your door-to-door salesman example) because it is such an open-ended problem. I think it is more like completing the Enlightenment as conceived by Kant and others.
I think we could do it (i.e., philosophy classes beginning in elementary school, etc), but it would be tough to convince people to participate. It is hard, mind-bending, solitary work that is inherently alienating, which most people avoid.
Additionally, there is also the inherent contradiction in developing your own independent mind by order of the government or teachers, as well as a host of other paradoxes.
Maybe the best route is to try to make philosophy popular? Use social behavior for people to be attracted to it for the wrong reasons, but hope that a sizeable part of the population end up taking it seriously? And that sizeable chunk is enough to influence the group?
I have no idea, but I like your comment and hope there is a silver-lining that we become deeper and more thoughtful people.
With what hardware? I've been CONSTANTLY trying to break Hermes2 ransomware (which uses RSA2048) for almost a solid decade.
The only thing I can think of is storing a hash or “phash” with a trusted third party that can then be used to later verify which image is the original. For video, store the hash/phash of the frames with timestamps. But would that even work? How do you back-verify that something was captured at a specific time when the device was offline during capture?
I’m sure we already have the technology needed to build the tools do that validation, I just don’t know what the winning choices are yet.
Can you expand on that? I’m not sure what wouldn’t work
The origin of the image is unclear. Sure, one can speculate that "India ruling party's IT cell" is behind the morphed image. This is what this comment section is for. But without hard proof the title is as much of an propaganda as are the morphed image.
Are we going to tag everything a Democrat does as "US ruling party's" doing?
https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/23/23419366/the-wire-meta-i...
HN was fooled multiple times during that episode. It looks like HN likes being gullible when simple common sense would have prevented that.
I think the American Narrow Minded view of the World is due to they growing up in a 2 party system that only looks at things as Black and White ( Not the race ), as Right and Wrong ( that's better ).
They are basically fed what they are supposed to think by CNNs, NYTs, Guardians etc etc
Like Uncle Soros they believe they understand India better than Indians. Uncle Soros wants to bring 'Democracy' to World's largest Democracy, because 1 Billion Indians don't know what they should vote for - They need a White Man to tell them that. .
In their own Country they created False Accusations against their President - Published in all 'respected' mainstream Newspapers.
United States of Gaslighting is where they are at.
Let's see if @dang is open minded enough to do something about the title after 400 upvotes are already made.
This is coming from a right leaning person.
The judges of courts are getting post retirement posts from the government. For example, Ranjan Gogoi, served as Chief Justice of India and gave many decisions in favour of ruling party and he got nominated to Rajaya Sabha by president after his retirement. [1] He was also accused of sexual harassment, and the lady was found to be a target of snooping by BJP government through her mobile phone by using pegasus spyware. [2]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranjan_Gogoi
[2] https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/pegasus-proje...
I don’t think any other party has anywhere near the might to stand up to the sheer might the BJP has created, not without compromising their morals.
How do you compete with a government that will distort reality like this, where the majority of people won’t listen to the actual truth?
It's much like how Trump was elected.
If you think that majority of Indians were ever secular, I think that you never left the bubble of upper middle class, city based society.
Hindus are, generally much more advanced than Muslim in terms of education, finances, etc. and couldn’t be bothered to cause communal violence because they have much more to lose. And the ones that are left behind, didn't have a uniting force. BJP/RSS has accomplished that.
The people lynching Muslim for eating beef are very rural, very uneducated Hindus with much less to lose. And the rest of them openly support them.
I will say, 80-95% of Hindus were never ever secular. BJP is creating new zealots now, but they didn't need to do so to come to power.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/23/italy-governme...
The 1st step in turning a seemingly democratic country in a dictatorship is to control the media. Not the 1st time it happens, but this time it is way more serious. Of course the new dictatorship needs to be soft enough to be palatable for other EU members and NATO allies, therefore I don't expect black shirt patrols with batons attacking people unfriendly to the regime down the street or at their home, at least not in a systematic way like a century ago, yet things are going to suck badly over here if nobody stops those bastards in power ASAP.
- https://www.economist.com/asia/2022/02/12/the-organs-of-indi...
- https://www.economist.com/asia/2023/03/27/the-worlds-biggest...
State governments in India are not powerful, and they never have been! The constitution of India grants much more power to the Central Government than it does to the State Governments. The BJP government has pushed the boundary of federalism again and again. Here are some concrete examples:
1. Denial of statehood to Jammu and Kashmir.
2. Using the Centre-appointed governor to take down the Govt. of Maharashtra.
3. Constant pushback on policies and appointments made by the Govt. of Delhi.
“Turn the other cheek” and “love your enemy” are very old philosophies, after all. So is there something different about this situation or about Indian politics in general that makes this a damaging attack?
This was to paint them as insincere and implying that protestors are on the payroll of <insert boogeyman here>.
I wonder if these are universal or if different societies have different "greatest sin". Like, does Japan, unbeknownst to me, have shamelessness as its?
- None of the major opposition parties attended
- The President and other constitutional heads were not invited
- The protesting athletes were arrested
- One religion was in the spotlight, as opposed to the Indian brand of secularism where ceremonies of all religions should have been conducted
- On the day of Savarkar's (Hindu nationalist) birth anniversary
- The PM treating it as a vanity project/personal PR photoshoot
Various social media handles of IT cell of ruling party shared morphed picture of protesters to show that they were smiling in the police van.
Not to assume anyone's gender here, but does it look like a all female police squad? https://i.imgur.com/OSnyrFH.jpg
And in these cases, a high powered officer, like the SP/DSP calls out for every lady police officers in all local police station to be present.
It doesn't need to be a "all female squad".
A far right party with a popular/charismatic leader is using religion as a basis to all the problems India faces. We have extra-legal forces acting as vigilantes against people of a community. They have a very strong support in the majority. Media is in totality controlled by ruling party and social media is saturated with noise and false discourse. No other nation will speak against them because of geo-politics and honestly same religion is hated almost everywhere. Though lot more pragmatic and not a globe-capturing maniac, but rest of the world is complimenting for that.
I believe we are on a strong path to revisit that event in late 30s though hopeful against it as now 6 million and 2 nukes are rookie numbers.
2 leaders of Aam Aadmi Party (a primary opponent to PM Modi) are lodged in Jail for months without trial. Same judge appointment by Modi government somehow gets all the cases related to Aam Aadmi Party and orders to extend the judicial custody month after month.
Satyendra Jain, the man behind world famous Delhi Mohalla Clinic (Neighbourhood Clinic) is in jail awaiting trial since May 2022 on allegations of money laundering. [1] [2] [3]
Manish Sisodia, the man behind public education revolution in New Delhi is in jail awaiting trial since Feb 2023 on allegations of corruption in creating Delhi Excise Policy. [4] [5] [6]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyendra_Kumar_Jain
[2] https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/former-un-chief-ban-ki...
[3] https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/even-kasab-got-a-fair-trial-...
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manish_Sisodia
[5] https://www.timesnownews.com/delhi/nyt-report-lauds-delhi-go...
[6] https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/delhi/2023/mar/21/if...
[1] - https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/policy/story/liquor-scam...
>> "Special CBI court allows ED to question Delhi Health Minister Satyendar Jain"
>> "The ED is now probing the money-laundering angle"
>> "Jain is currently in Delhi's Tihar jail in connection with a money-laundering case, which is also being probed by the ED."
Do you know the difference between "jailed after investigation." and "jailed while being probed"?
If tomorrow CBI arrests you on allegation of money laundering and then keeps you in jail for one year while investigating, are you fine with that?
Can you please point me to a single news article which says they recovered any cash? And how much was it?
Can you please also point me to a single BJP leader in whole country who has been jailed while being investigated?
The SA accused BJP leader against whom women wrestlers are protesting was a BJP guest in yesterdays parliament event.
I am just amazed at the analytical abilities of some of today's "engineers" and "entrepreneurs". :(
>> Zubair was arrested and incarcerated by the Delhi Police for a month. His detention raised further concerns about the state of India's press freedom under Narendra Modi's premiership and was widely criticized by journalistic bodies, human rights organizations and the political opposition who allege that the arrest was an act of revenge against his role in Alt News' work of combating disinformation.[1]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Zubair_(journalist)
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ll_own_nothing_and_be_ha...
If you really care about reputation of India, how about advising someone in BJP to prevent this type of things from happening at first place?
No, I don't think it likely. It's just we live in a world where this kind of stuff is just so easy to do now.
They also include analysis comparing the smiling photo to other existing photos of those people smiling and note that in the smiling photo some people are depicted with dimples that the person doesn't actually have.
Courts have dealt with issues of manipulation of content and falsification of provenance of video and photographic evidence for a long time, actually.
In the near term, it is designed to mislead the public perception. In the long term, it both creates a chilling effect of what consequences protesting may have… and will anyone remember that these pictures were manipulated “for effect” decades from now? Will they fuel other echo chambers?
I very much doubt the public understands the precipice (and precedents) that these malicious actions lead us all down.
Every time I think Modi's RW government can't go any lower they prove me wrong. World should be worried that soon to be third largest economy is going to ruled by a political force who are inspired by Nazi. These are some of the quotes from Golwalkar who was the brain behind the current militia Golwalkar https://twitter.com/jaskaransandhu_/status/10569508194997534...
Who fact checks the fact checkers and titles like this?
@dang
Are you allowed to write that Democrat Party threatened to Blow up Target ?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/05/26/target-store...
I am sure that will be downvoted into oblivion.
But that threat does come from a Democrat Party voter right ?
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HN has an inherent bias against India and Indians. Just open any of the H1B related posts and you will see how open minded the liberal tech worker of USA is about India and Indians. Of course, they are all for immigration just the H1B brings up debate about 'Quality of Work'. Hypocrites.
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I think the American Narrow Minded view of the World is due to they growing up in a 2 party system that only looks at things as Black and White ( Not the race ), as Right and Wrong ( that's better ).
They are basically fed what they are supposed to think by CNNs, NYTs, Guardians etc etc
Like Uncle Soros they believe they understand India better than Indians. Uncle Soros wants to bring 'Democracy' to World's largest Democracy, because 1 Billion Indians don't know what they should vote for - They need a White Man to tell them that. .
In their own Country they created False Accusations against their President - Published in all 'respected' mainstream Newspapers.
United States of Gaslighting is where they are at.
Let's see if @dang is open minded enough to do something about the title after 400 upvotes are already made.
