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0 pointskortilla2y ago0 comments

>Right, and it's always, always, always on the employee side -- is what you're basically saying.

No it’s not. Jumping to negative conclusions and engaging in bad faith definitely is a way to get passed over though.

There are lots of reasons, both managerial issues and employee issues, for someone to get passed over despite having the right mindset. My point wasn’t that it’s a guaranteed path to getting promotions. My point is that “not giving a shit” is nearly a guaranteed path to being passed over.

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afwf12y ago

> If they don’t, there is usually some other issue (difficultly to work with) explicitly holding them back.

> There are lots of reasons, both managerial issues and employee issues, for someone to get passed over despite having the right mindset.

You're contradicting yourself. Not surprising, lying is one way people get promoted and turn others into clock punchers.

kortillaOP2y ago

I’m not, you’re suffering from the inability to logically reason about what I’m saying because of your “us vs them” mentality.

Managerial issues are “explicitly” holding someone back. I didn’t say the issues were with the employee.

> Not surprising, lying is one way people get promoted

Don’t be an asshole. That’s another “explicit” issue that will make it difficult for you to get promoted.

To be clear, my point is that being a clock puncher is an extremely effective way to limit your own career. Giving a shit is not a guarantee to get promotions, but it is requisite baring other very unlikely circumstances.

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