“Cloudflare is slow because of an Indian ISP” or “Cloudflare is slow in India and Cloudflare can’t do much about it” would both still be improvements.
Would be the most accurate.
I remember Australia making similar mistakes when their list of sites to block got leaked, and it included URL's which were specific to logged in users (so it would have blocked that users login as opposed to the site).
Ultimately if Cloudflare's customers see slow performance, it doesn't really matter who is to blame. The customers just have a bad experience.
Edit: Link to screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/d7zLuCP
Here's a new acronym for us: "Problem Exists Between User And Internet; PEBUI.
This is definitely the next 5 years+ of computing. More and more nations making more and more wild ass decisions about the internet & users ending up disconnected. PEBUI.
What did they think countries were gonna do? Just give up governing? Did they really think a web browser was going to defeat an entire nation state's domestic and foreign policy?
Rather than allow the user to determine their own level of security and privacy, they forced the user to choose the strongest method, which of course forced governments to use more extreme measures to fulfill their legislative requirements. Rather than just spying on users or filter their traffic, now they outright just block the internet. Thanks internet standards paternalists! Having no internet is so much better than internet without privacy.
You are seriously suggesting that the move to TLS was a bad thing? Before the era of TLS, I, as a child, could see everyone's private information on any network I was on.
> user to determine their own level of security and privacy
Because your average person can be trusted to understand the nuances of cybersecurity? Get real! The average software engineer would struggle with these settings.
> Thanks internet standards paternalists! Having no internet is so much better than internet without privacy.
You're saying this sarcastically but it's absolutely true. If the government blocks a service because they can't use it to spy, citizens get angry at their government. Working as intended.
Rather be clueless than have a mind full of lies, no?
fuck this
Absolutely. Forcing strong TLS is absolutely a good thing. Enforcing privacy is absolutely a good thing.
The problem isn't with that decision, but the governments who don't understand that, and thus it is up to the citizens to change that.
You're proposing we let users "opt" into insecurity. And it doesn't seem like anything user's want: it seems like what governments what to coral their citizens into.
Further, I'm not sure what viable insecure plans we have that make sense; what has been on offer that we ought have considered?
It's just getting messy now, and who knows what's next, but I have a hard time seeing insecurity as going well for governments. I don't think they have the iron will to deny their citizens internet access, which is their only real power.
I've seen some CDNs who don't use anycast and rely primarily on DNS to cycle thru the IP pools vended in India because the government is slow to add new addresses to block and they maintain a cool down period before reintroducing them.
The shitty part is that the entity in India issuing this never reaches out to the CDNs to communicate exactly what they object to.
[1] https://developers.cloudflare.com/cache/how-to/purge-cache/
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