Right? How else can I interpret that?
And can you quote any argument they've made for the experiments being unethical that doesn't either:
A) base the argument on current FDA rules
B) assume some kind of extreme example like "so experimental we can't even explain the danger well enough for informed consent to be possible"
I would be interested in a discussion of specific issues with specific possible experiments but I don't see that happening anywhere. Just someone taking the neurosurgeon's words and interpreting them in the most extreme way possible.
Here's what they actually said:
"Wanting to do early experimentation, that is currently only allowed to occur on animals due to safety concerns, on humans is definitionally unethical..."
I don't know why, but you are just persistently misreading or misinterpreting the OP's comments.
If you actually read the rest of the OP's comments, it's completely obvious that they don't think that the current regulations define what's ethical. They very explicitly say that what's ethical and what's in accord with the regulations are two separate things, and even give a hypothetical example to illustrate this.
They have not given any other information on where to draw the line.
> even give a hypothetical example to illustrate this
No they didn't. They gave an analogy about how murder is bad. Which is no more helpful than "the most extreme possible interpretation of what the neurosurgeon said would be bad". They haven't given any examples of experiments that are okay or not okay.
All they've said is that a super extreme early experiment is bad, and then acted like the neurosurgeon said they wanted to do that. They are either ignoring the possibility of less extreme examples, or acting like everything the FDA doesn't allow is exactly the same.
I can't tell you which it is, so if you insist it's not the latter then it must be the former. That's just as bad. It's a strawman.
If they gave a non-strawman non-FDA explanation of where to draw the line, then I must be blind, so please quote it.
