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0 pointsmagicalist3y ago0 comments

> Your statement could just as easily be, on a different day: "Y'all abandoned the city for the suburbs and deprived the city of a tax base to help the poor."

That's a different situation from this one, so, sure, if that's something that happened and then you're complaining about the place you don't live anymore, sure, that's also a statement that could be made.

> Between "white flight" and "colonizer/gentrifier", you're damned if you do and damned if you don't

Not surprisingly, those aren't the only two options.

> Real, actual victims of violent crime don't think it's cute or have this nostalgia for squalor

I think you're confused if you think the GP's comment "It taught me compassion and empathy and how to avoid getting knifed by a junkie in the alleyway" was nostalgic for the getting knifed part.

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BurningFrog3y ago

> > Between "white flight" and "colonizer/gentrifier", you're damned if you do and damned if you don't

> Not surprisingly, those aren't the only two options.

"white flight" == moving out of the area

"colonizer/gentrifier" == moving in to the area

The only remaining option is to never move.

ipaddr3y ago

The other option is to accept you have been deemed evil by mainstream media and ignore them and judge people who listen to them the problem

clsec3y ago

Don't agree.

white flight = moving out of city because of fear, cost, crappy schools, etc. is flight. A white person moving to the boondocks because they want to homestead or live off grid is not "flight".

gentrifier = higher income person/family moving into a city or neighborhood, raising the housing costs by doing so, causing the long time residents to leave because of said costs and changing the culture of said area because the old families don't live there anymore.

brigandish3y ago

White flight is a term used as slant, it isn’t some nuanced term for actually determining the different intentions of movers. If enough white people move for whatever reason then there’ll be someone waiting to paint it as racism.

Schelling’s segregation model comes to mind in these moments but I never see that mentioned, strangely. Oh, the inconvenience of maths that explains things better than divisive and ignorant rhetoric!

magicalistOP3y ago

Neighborhoods always change but if SF were to actually build housing then people could have a place where they could still live.

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