There are plenty of other web builders based on Tailwind or Bootstrap, often they have free tiers, and you're charging 249$, for what? For 300$ you can get Tailwindui* from creators of Tailwindcss or something like Shuffle.dev that has components for Tailwind/Bootstrap/Bulma.
For brutally honest feedback from stereotypical grumpy developers, clearly.
OP, stay positive and good luck. However, I agree and think this does need some improvement all around to be more useful.
Keep building and iterating. Congratulations on launch!
Launching as-is and iterating is totally fine IMO. Either they get some users now, much earlier than they would have if they waited, or nothing happens. At worst, it is neutral to not launching. The upside is much higher.
I will be doing some serious iterating over the next few weeks to get more polish on it before doing a Product Hunt launch.
But HN is a great place to get early feedback in my opinion.
Thank you for the comment!
But I get it... strangers have no reason to trust you and the bar is REALLY HIGH these days even for an MVP.
But thank you for reminding us of the importance of being nice! This world does need a whole lot more LOVE and KINDNESS in it.
Check out the Values section of this template:
https://www.webase.com/template-preview/vanilla-landing-page...
One thing I really want to do with WeBase is spread POSITIVITY and ENCOURAGEMENT around the Internet!!
Keep it constructive - you're being a dick.
One feature I want to add soon is some animations. Just a few animations can add some polish.
We also need to steer away from the heavy use of cards and be a bit more creative.
This feedback is really helpful!
We don't know what the age, experience, circumstances, constraints of the OP is. Why jump straight away into using strong words?
Honestly I knew the missing links in the footer was lame but just wanted to get some feedback and was tired of delaying "talking to potential users"!!
Now I will have renewed energy to fix these things!
And frankly I am glad I did... it made it to the front page of Hacker News for over two hours so at least people are interested even if it needs more polish!
Thank you for speaking up!
The beauty is that since WeBase has several components and pre-built pages it will be easy! :-)
I do believe there is a market for this... just needs more polish and I need to highlight the features better (components, ChatGPT integration etc).
Shuffle.dev is also nice but again... it is for developers and doesn't support hosting and lots of other features I'd expect from a UI Builder in 2023.
WeBase is the first tool that I know of to bring the power of TailwindCSS to non-developers.
But you're right that they built a pretty ugly landing page. Especially the color palette and fonts selection. I don' think this should detract from the service offered, so I hope they fix this quick.
I think it's UI builder that has predefined set of components that user can customise - globally (by customising 'theme' - font family, primary colors etc) or per component (padding, margins, overwriting theme settings). From these components user creates pages/templates. User can create there own components if they want so that's good.
Bu OP doesn't show those predefined components even as images, ever more there's no information how many components there are. And predefined components are important feature of most web builders as they can save a lot of time. Also well designed components (good color scheme, typography, spacing) helps develovers without design skills.
Thank you for the feedback!!
The original front-end was built with Bootstrap, a tool I still very much appreciate, but as I really started to "get" Tailwind I started to see its power and wanted non-developers to get to experience it.
The WeBase website editor only supports around 70% of Tailwind (the full surface area of Tailwind is pretty BIG!), but I am happy with how it has turned out.
There are still some UX issues I need to improve but I wanted to start getting some feedback as soon as possible to I'm making if generally available today!
I'm running a deal for HN users... 80% off of the Lifetime deal ($49 instead of $249). Just use the coupon code: HN4LYFE
The pro version allows you to publish to websites to custom domains with a Netlify integration as well access to a ChatGPT AI Assistant for generating content.
If you've every wanted to launch a personal or any other kind of website this is a pretty good deal! :-)
The coupon code will expire after Monday, April 10, 2023.
Feedback welcome!
I like the idea of a "directory of steps" to make it easy!
Also really need to finishing building out the site with more info etc!
This would be the leading feature against other CSS UI builders.
That is an interesting idea for a feature... I've built stuff on top of the Github API before but never to push code to a repo.
I wonder if people would pay for that feature?!?
The first version is honestly a more complete No Code tool supporting custom databases (like Airtable) and customer websites/views (like Webflow) in one tool.
And that is the ultimate vision, but I honestly believe the UI has to be a LOT better for it to be really useful. That is why we've re-written the front-end with a completely new approach that is more powerful and flexible.
I could see something like this being helpful to a team I work with, but they're pretty strongly in on Bootstrap and there are human reasons I wouldn't want to pick up the challenge of changing that.
One of the goals for the platform is to make it incredibly simple to create new templates that could be sold on other sites like WrapBoostrap etc.
If I can help people make money by using WeBase I believe there will be plenty of opportunity for WeBase to make money.
Thanks for the comment!
It seems[0] that the current lifetime deal is $99, not $249.
Also, to what extent can we try it without paying upfront?
Actually we haven't put the download behind the customer features yet so you can do that today, but at some point that will be a pro-feature. Of course developers can just inspect the source and copy anyway so it kind of is always "downloadable". :-)
One thing I've never understand about the landing pages for this type of product… why mention Tailwind (or Bootstrap, etc)? It's not clear whether you get to download the actual code, but it does mention that it integrates with Netlify so I'm guessing not. If you can't get the actual code, why highlight what's ultimately an implementation detail?
(The app does look neat, by the way — congratulations on launching!)
> When you are ready to launch you can deploy to a global CDN directly from WeBase or download the code and take it with you.
I think that's what you meant, no?
Thanks for the comment and the encouragement!
This would be interesting to know!
One cool thing about how this is built is components/templates/websites all have a uniform API and data model so the same editor is used for each one.
Never hosted a page of my own but always wondered how to make sure if I comply with all the rules after hearing from my colleagues that they've received a letter from some company asking for money for not complying to those.
Github for example uses cookies but doesn't ask for your consent:
"At GitHub, we want to protect developer privacy, and we find cookie banners quite irritating, so we decided to look for a solution. After a brief search, we found one: just don’t use any non-essential cookies. Pretty simple, really. " [1]
[1] https://github.blog/2020-12-17-no-cookie-for-you/
Ed: Just checked myself though. Page seems to be saving google and facebook cookies which would definitely require consent.
This is a pretty bold claim. I wouldn't say that TailwindCSS is anywhere near the industry standard.
It has its fans, but it also has its detractors.
But I have come to really appreciate its power even with its verbosity.
I have several ideas for some smaller tools around Tailwind and Bootstrap that I am looking forward to sharing with the world.
Feels like you're banking on the Bootstrap feel.
