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0 pointsastrange3y ago0 comments

This kind of fantasy about AIs exponentially growing and multiplying seems to be based on pretending nobody's gonna have to pay the exponential power bills for them to do all this.

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worldsayshi3y ago

It's a good point but we don't really know how intelligence scales with energy consumption yet. A GPT-8 equivalent might run on a smartphone once it's optimized enough.

ben_w3y ago

We've got many existence proofs of 20 watts being enough for a 130 IQ intelligence that passes a Turing test, that's already enough to mess up elections if the intelligence was artificial rather than betwixt our ears.

astrangeOP3y ago

20 watts isn't the energy cost to keep a human alive unless they're homeless and their food has no production costs.

Like humans, I predict AIs will have to get jobs rather than have time to take over the world.

ben_w3y ago

Not even then, that's just your brain.

Still an existence proof though.

> Like humans, I predict AIs will have to get jobs rather than have time to take over the world.

Only taking over job market is still taking over.

Living costs of 175 kWh/year is one heck of a competitive advantage over food, and clothing, and definitely rent.

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TeMPOraL3y ago

It doesn't have to be exponential over long duration - it just has to be that there are more AI people than human people.

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worldsayshi3y ago

It's a good point but we don't really know how intelligence scales with energy consumption yet. A GPT-8 equivalent might run on a smartphone once it's optimized enough.

ben_w3y ago

astrangeOP3y ago

20 watts isn't the energy cost to keep a human alive unless they're homeless and their food has no production costs.

Like humans, I predict AIs will have to get jobs rather than have time to take over the world.

ben_w3y ago

Not even then, that's just your brain.

Still an existence proof though.

> Like humans, I predict AIs will have to get jobs rather than have time to take over the world.

Only taking over job market is still taking over.

Living costs of 175 kWh/year is one heck of a competitive advantage over food, and clothing, and definitely rent.

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TeMPOraL3y ago

It doesn't have to be exponential over long duration - it just has to be that there are more AI people than human people.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse