If you're against this, have you thought about the intense frustration and pain some men feel in their lives to even consider something this extreme? I'm not saying I'd do it or recommend it, but I understand why somebody would think about that.
> As technology has advanced, bringing with it cheaper, and less invasive procedures like injectable fillers and Botox, the “superhero jawline”, or the “GI Jaw”, as one surgeon has marketed it, is increasingly available to all.
Perhaps even if one agrees in principle that people should be free to pursue cosmetic surgery as they see fit, one could still have qualms about massive operations that are medically unnecessary?
1) I would of course recommend avoiding surgery where possible.
2) If there are other potential medical treatments for this kind of thing, I'd assume they have different kinds of tradeoffs in these respects: pain, risk of complications, length of recovery, odds of success, and cost, among others. It's hard to judge what the best treatment option for any individual is without knowing the pros and cons of all of the potential options. Maybe non-surgical options are much safer, but have far lower odds of success? I have no idea.
One of my son’s friends got into the wheat waffles and Tik Tok rabbit hole, refused my offer to teach him weightlifting but stole money from his mom to buy steroids, broke contact with my son because my son is taller and doesn’t want to be “heightmogged”. It’s crazy, it’s self-loathing, it is all about pathological narcissism but people writing about it can’t get past “misogyny” which is prevalent in that community but I’d say not primary.
I don't think so. I think it's just about biological need to secure a suitable mate. Men are convinced (not entirely without basis) that you need to be hyper-competitive this day and age to even have a chance at procreating and young impressionable minds fall for it big time. I don't see what it has to do with "misogyny", the fact that women prefer taller guys is just common knowledge. Until now men didn't really have options, now they have leg lengthening.
My son has another friend who is so isolated to be ann American Hikkiomori. That person is starting to think “it” is trans mostly because the only other person who spends time talking to “it” is an egg-Hatcher who has nothing better to do. Fortunately “it” is so depressed that “it” can’t clean “its” room and isn’t going to have the motivation or energy to leave the house and do all the hard work of transitioning. My son is convinced that “it” doesn’t know anything about real life women and gets all of “it(s)” ideas about women from hololive (talks like somebody from hololive.)
Many kids today are in deep trouble, I’ll say that.
Men are convinced ...
Here is an alternate hypothesis: People with expendable income, or the insecure, are paying for cosmetic surgery just like they always have.
But I don't think it's controversial to say that male models and Hollywood actors are not exactly manly figures.
And yes, all cosmetic surgery. I know someone who almost died from complications from a simple facelift.
There's an industry pushing these useless surgeries, and of course hostile communities (pro-ana, etc) pushing people into them or into the mental illness that makes them attractive. The more people who speak out about the need to modify yourself to be happy, the better.
Or you need to have an argument that isn't about the risks.
and a new look will not help with that.