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Yes and anyone with an ounce of technical hiring ability avoids those bootcampers like wildfire.

They churn out ego inflated beginners who think they're experts.

The mentality peddled by bootcamps to sell their wares produces dangers "engineers" in my opinion.

I have no formal education, I'm not coming from educational elitism here.

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Regardless of whether you're coming from educational elitism, you're still making sweeping claims about big groups of people based on extremely limited evidence.

I'm a bootcamp grad, and would not have gotten into the field if bootcamps did not exist. I'm about four years into my career now, currently working at a major well-reputed tech company, and haven't gotten an average-or-below annual performance review yet. (And one reason for that is that I tend to be cautious, critical, and thoughtful in my technical decisions.) There are a number of other people from my bootcamp class with similar results.

sirsinsalotOP3y ago

I am making a generalisation, based on having interviewed over 200 developers in the past 2 years as part of technical screening.

80%+ of the bootcampers were rubbish and shocked to be told their knowledge was way below where they thought it was.

A classic is a 6 week JavaScript bootcamp grad claiming to be an "expert in JavaScript" (their words) and couldn't explain the JS type system or basics of variable scope. That was the norm. That kind of rubbish.

I'm happy you're an exception and everyone gets a fair chance with me, regardless of background, but I am never shocked when I have to bin yet another bootcampers CV

cipheredStones3y ago

"Everyone gets a fair chance with me, regardless of background" is an _extremely_ different statement than "anyone with an ounce of technical hiring ability avoids those bootcampers like wildfire".

If you mean "in my experience, bootcampers fail technical screens at much higher rates", then say that, instead of implying that you're stupid if you even consider hiring someone who went to a bootcamp.

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