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0 pointsmhh__3y ago0 comments

@nogc eliminates that risk.

The GC also doesn't run if you don't call it so mitigating it's downsides while keeping the good aspects isn't all that hard.

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dataflow3y ago

You disable GC for the whole program? And what do you do when one of your dependencies relies on it? Just live with a memory leak?

Bear in mind you're simply not going to convince anti-GC folks that you can have the "good aspects" of a GC without the bad ones, and they're the folks you're trying to market to. To many C++ programmers the only good GC is one that is absent. You can tell them they're wrong all you want, but regardless of who's right, it's always been a losing battle.

mhh__OP3y ago

It won't compile.

You can also make it so it will compile but won't collect unless you ask it to explicitly.

We don't exclusively market to C++ developers. D replaced PHP and Java for quite a few D users.

dataflow3y ago

It won't compile, and... how is that a solution? You've basically told some users they can't use your language in that case. That's problem solved?

If you see PHP and Java replacement as taking off, that's awesome. I was addressing those who want to see it replace C++.

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gavinray3y ago

Aye, you can turn off GC entirely, for the whole program

There's even a mode of D that operates this way by default, "-betterC" meant to be a C replacement

The GC really is an entirety opt-in component.

I'd encourage you/other folks to give D an honest try, you might be surprised

dataflow3y ago

You're not understanding my point unfortunately. I never said you can't turn it off. I said if you do, and any of your dependencies expect it to be on, then you have a problem. (Yes, I have tried D. That's how I know this.)

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dataflow3y ago

You disable GC for the whole program? And what do you do when one of your dependencies relies on it? Just live with a memory leak?

mhh__OP3y ago

It won't compile.

You can also make it so it will compile but won't collect unless you ask it to explicitly.

We don't exclusively market to C++ developers. D replaced PHP and Java for quite a few D users.

dataflow3y ago

It won't compile, and... how is that a solution? You've basically told some users they can't use your language in that case. That's problem solved?

If you see PHP and Java replacement as taking off, that's awesome. I was addressing those who want to see it replace C++.

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gavinray3y ago

Aye, you can turn off GC entirely, for the whole program

There's even a mode of D that operates this way by default, "-betterC" meant to be a C replacement

The GC really is an entirety opt-in component.

I'd encourage you/other folks to give D an honest try, you might be surprised

dataflow3y ago

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