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0 pointsbillfor3y ago0 comments

Disagree. I've had the beta for a year and drive in NYC. It has been mostly flawless considering all scenarios it has to handle. It does make the occasional mistake but (1) it's a beta and (2) I'm responsible for monitoring and correcting it. Agree that those that expected more should be entitled to a refund if they so desire.

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root_axis3y ago

> It does make the occasional mistake

Yeah, that's what I mean by "dangerous".

panick21_3y ago

Ok but don't you have to weigh that against the potential of avoiding accidents by reacting quicker then you as a human can?

I have defiantly seen cases where FSD Beta stopped and the driver didn't understand instantly understand why.

Or simpler cases where the car follows a lane while the driver wasn't paying attention (adjusting the radio or whatever). Those can easily lead to an accident but are unlikely to if you are in FSD.

How do you make that calculation?

root_axis3y ago

The calculation is easy, FSD does the wrong thing so often that there's no question a human driver is safer.

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ceejayoz3y ago

Consider the possibility that you might both be right. Two people may have vastly different experiences with FSD, depending on the routes they take and other variables.

ricardobeat3y ago

Also some people may have a very low tolerance for the car not driving like they would. It does make you uncomfortable .

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root_axis3y ago

> It does make the occasional mistake

Yeah, that's what I mean by "dangerous".

panick21_3y ago

Ok but don't you have to weigh that against the potential of avoiding accidents by reacting quicker then you as a human can?

I have defiantly seen cases where FSD Beta stopped and the driver didn't understand instantly understand why.

Or simpler cases where the car follows a lane while the driver wasn't paying attention (adjusting the radio or whatever). Those can easily lead to an accident but are unlikely to if you are in FSD.

How do you make that calculation?

root_axis3y ago

The calculation is easy, FSD does the wrong thing so often that there's no question a human driver is safer.

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ceejayoz3y ago

Consider the possibility that you might both be right. Two people may have vastly different experiences with FSD, depending on the routes they take and other variables.

ricardobeat3y ago

Also some people may have a very low tolerance for the car not driving like they would. It does make you uncomfortable .

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