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0 pointsmrdatawolf3y ago0 comments

Because only a FSD car causes piles up... your right, I NEVER saw 90 car pileups on the news before FSD. /s

I'm pointing this out because he said (in italics) "substantially".

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It doesn't really matter, we have multiple incidents of FSD causing accidents due to outright mistakes, not even "a human would have messed up here too" situations.

panick21_3y ago

Do we? Becuase most of the news reports about claims blamed on Autopilot or FSD turn out after investigation not to be cases.

In one famous case the policy claimed that the driver was '100% not in the driver seat'. This caused a huge media storm and anti-Tesla wave.

Just recently the full report came out and stated that Tesla AP was not used at all and the drive was driving normally.

https://electrek.co/2023/02/09/tesla-cleared-highly-publiciz...

There are quite few such cases, this one maybe being the one that caused the most media attention.

So I tend to discredit all such reports unless its several months after and a full investigation report has been done.

Do you have links to verified reports of FSD causing such crashes.

It seems to me that phantom breaking could lead to such issues, but I have not yet seen a real report that claims this happened.

sebzim45003y ago

Humans also mess up in situations that aren't "a human would have messed up here too".

micromacrofoot3y ago

Sure, but say I consider myself a diligent driver and I've never caused an accident... what does FSD have to offer me? Yet another random opportunity for a car to fail me. Why would I surrender control for that?

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micromacrofoot3y ago

It doesn't really matter, we have multiple incidents of FSD causing accidents due to outright mistakes, not even "a human would have messed up here too" situations.

panick21_3y ago

Do we? Becuase most of the news reports about claims blamed on Autopilot or FSD turn out after investigation not to be cases.

In one famous case the policy claimed that the driver was '100% not in the driver seat'. This caused a huge media storm and anti-Tesla wave.

Just recently the full report came out and stated that Tesla AP was not used at all and the drive was driving normally.

https://electrek.co/2023/02/09/tesla-cleared-highly-publiciz...

There are quite few such cases, this one maybe being the one that caused the most media attention.

So I tend to discredit all such reports unless its several months after and a full investigation report has been done.

Do you have links to verified reports of FSD causing such crashes.

It seems to me that phantom breaking could lead to such issues, but I have not yet seen a real report that claims this happened.

sebzim45003y ago

Humans also mess up in situations that aren't "a human would have messed up here too".

micromacrofoot3y ago

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