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0 pointsGigachad3y ago0 comments

Ultimately I think MS is right betting on the fact that this will not matter in the long run. All AI tools are trained on copyrighted data. The tools are too useful to cripple with restrictive laws written for a previous era.

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belorn3y ago

The pirate movement might have been a bit early for their time, but if AI happen to be the technology advancement needed for society to abolish copyright law then lets get it done.

With everything from scihub getting blocked and people getting subscription fatigue, it is an excellent time for the restrictive laws to be replaced.

JoshTriplett3y ago

> The pirate movement might have been a bit early for their time, but if AI happen to be the technology advancement needed for society to abolish copyright law then lets get it done.

No argument there; that'd be a huge victory.

But until that happens, tools for "smart completions" need to provide appropriate licensing and attribution metadata.

JoshTriplett3y ago

Please by all means have those laws repealed. Until then, a license violation remains a license violation no matter how much AI you run the code through.

jonstewart3y ago

Napster was right to bet on music being accessible online but oh wait

MagicMoonlight3y ago

It’s not AI if it’s just copying and pasting someone else’s code

thesuperbigfrog3y ago

>> All AI tools are trained on copyrighted data. The tools are too useful to cripple with restrictive laws written for a previous era.

Are you sure that Disney and Games Workshop will not mind if make your own Mickey Mouse / Warhammer 40K cross-over movie for profit? (I would watch it!)

AI can help generate it, so it must be okay.

GigachadOP3y ago

Those are protected by trademark law which will still be strong in a post AI world. I'm sure those companies will be making massive use of AI to speed up content production.

thesuperbigfrog3y ago

You previously stated "The tools are too useful to cripple with restrictive laws written for a previous era." and also "Those are protected by trademark law which will still be strong in a post AI world."

So do you believe in legal protections for trademarked and copyrighted works or not?

If an AI assistant generates content that includes copyrighted or trademarked elements is the content "too useful to be crippled by restrictive laws" or "protected by laws which will still be strong" ?

IceHegel3y ago

I agree. AI is happening. Don’t swim upstream.

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belorn3y ago

The pirate movement might have been a bit early for their time, but if AI happen to be the technology advancement needed for society to abolish copyright law then lets get it done.

With everything from scihub getting blocked and people getting subscription fatigue, it is an excellent time for the restrictive laws to be replaced.

JoshTriplett3y ago

> The pirate movement might have been a bit early for their time, but if AI happen to be the technology advancement needed for society to abolish copyright law then lets get it done.

No argument there; that'd be a huge victory.

But until that happens, tools for "smart completions" need to provide appropriate licensing and attribution metadata.

JoshTriplett3y ago

Please by all means have those laws repealed. Until then, a license violation remains a license violation no matter how much AI you run the code through.

jonstewart3y ago

Napster was right to bet on music being accessible online but oh wait

MagicMoonlight3y ago

It’s not AI if it’s just copying and pasting someone else’s code

thesuperbigfrog3y ago

>> All AI tools are trained on copyrighted data. The tools are too useful to cripple with restrictive laws written for a previous era.

Are you sure that Disney and Games Workshop will not mind if make your own Mickey Mouse / Warhammer 40K cross-over movie for profit? (I would watch it!)

AI can help generate it, so it must be okay.

GigachadOP3y ago

Those are protected by trademark law which will still be strong in a post AI world. I'm sure those companies will be making massive use of AI to speed up content production.

thesuperbigfrog3y ago

So do you believe in legal protections for trademarked and copyrighted works or not?

IceHegel3y ago

I agree. AI is happening. Don’t swim upstream.

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