E.g., I’m originally from Haiti. A really huge percentage of Haitians still use Yahoo for their email (specifically via yahoo.fr) and they even get a lot of their global news via Yahoo. I’ve seen the same thing apply in various African countries.
Now if only i could convince it to go to https://finance.yahoo.com/ instead of https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/ when in the office it'd be great.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_visited_websites
Anecdotally, I still use finance.yahoo.com because it's one of the best free sites out there for financial data. I also use fantasy.yahoo.com for some fantasy sports leagues I'm in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Search
So for many years, there hasn’t been any compelling reason for me to use Yahoo for search
I got the clothes but not the face
I got the bread but not the butter
I got the window but not the shutter
But I'm big in Japan
https://www.insider.com/japan-cant-get-rid-the-fax-machine-o...
It’ll be nice when we have portable e-mail addresses. Having a phone number that moves with me is really convenient.
Having this kind of ridiculous thing in 2023 in a website that pretends to adapt to your location is enough for me to write it off as low-quality trash.
It is interesting what signals we take for credibility, yours being temperature units on a website.
(Last I checked)
Twitter / Google / Microsoft / Amazon layoffs occur
HN: The feudal lords have decided the serfs are no longer needed. Google shrinking is a travesty and proves they are a dying company! Time for revolution!
But my question stands. What the hell is Yahoo doing nowadays? Yahoo Finance and search can't take that many folks to run. Maybe it's Yahoo Weather?
Edit: wasn’t it just yesterday there was a front page HN post about Yahoo getting back into search?
When I hear “NetCo lays off 10K” I wonder, does that mean they will have fewer employees than a year ago? Or is this just a blip on an overall trend of hiring?
This graph[0] makes it look like Microsoft, for example, is laying off far fewer people than they recently hired.
I would intuitively expect Yahoo to be the exception, but it would be great to see something like “…representing N% of its yearly hiring average since 2020” in these headlines.
[0]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/273475/number-of-employe...
In 2019 they had 10,500: https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/verizon-media-layoffs-...!
In 2017, when Verizon acquired them, they laid off 2,100 employees. https://www.fastcompany.com/4040668/tim-armstrong-confirms-y...
The CEO at the time indicated this was a 15% cut (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/oath-ceo-tim-armstrong-d...), so working backwards they had 14,000 people in 2017.
So in short Yahoo has shrunk to half over the last decade, despite mergers with AOL and other acquisitions
You are correct though, they shrunk to half over the last decade but they had already shrunk by about half in 2017.
Basically, most of these tech companies have been hiring at a constant rate for years, and also experiencing constant attrition. Once the economy soured, and then hiring freezes started, attrition rates had crashed, and the employee count wasn't as affected by freeze as desired. The layoffs have been roughly a reset towards the headcount before the freeze for many companies.
While the whole article is paywalled, I'll quote an excerpt from ben Thompson:
> The popular narrative right now about these layoffs is that tech companies dramatically over-hired during the pandemic, but while that seems to have happened with Amazon — and for arguably very good reasons given the way that e-commerce shot up during lockdowns in particular — the reality is that the rest of the tech companies largely increased at the same rate they always had. Sure, the number of employees they added was large, but that was a function of keeping the same hiring rate off of an ever increasing base.
> In short, no one was giving up a job at one of the big five tech companies this year as fear spread about a broad-based slowdown in hiring... These companies, though, adjusted more slowly to the slower rate of attrition, which means they accidentally increased their headcount... the relatively limited size of the layoffs to date actually reflects that: these companies are not returning to their pre-pandemic levels of employees, but rather to where they would be had they kept up roughly the same rates of hiring this year that they have over the last ten
[0] https://stratechery.com/2023/tech-layoffs-big-techs-hiring-r...
However, it could be an initial reaction (right or wrong) to chatGPT and copilot and such. The start (or continuation) of the automation of knowledge work. Nobody has a crystal ball, so we'll see where it goes!
I'm thinking the coming two+ decades of AI transformation will make the Web/Internet transition look quaint in terms of societal impact. But I'm just a 52 year old geek that has been following technology for 40+ years ;)
Yahoo Japan is a separate company from Yahoo. It used to operate with licensing for the "Yahoo" brand, until it bought the brand usage outright from Verison a couple years ago.
Therefore, Yahoo's operation has no effect on Yahoo Japan. It is more affected by its parent company Softbank. When Softbank faced losses from its Vision Fund, they reorganized Yahoo into a subsidiary (in lieu of being a sibling company) and therefore consolidated its profitable accounting as well.
I just walked past a Yahoo Japan physical store selling SIM cards and unnecessary plastic objects. Although it looked like no customer has actually wandered in there since the 90s..
I miss being able to find a high quality page and seeing other high quality pages that the author or authors recommended
I had no idea lol
It is also a bit sad to see the Yahoo buildings, which Google bought in 2019, just sitting empty and unutilized.
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/03/verizon-sells-yahoo-and-aol-...
I wish them luck. Or maybe I wish for a division of the pie, so I could more easily get at the pieces that I like. Either way, I hope Yahoo stays around.
