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0 pointsversion_five3y ago0 comments

Drastic is a bit strong. A cartoon character on an infinite streaming tv experiment made a bad joke (which appears to be more of a bad meta-joke). The fact that the stakes are so low is presumably why they changed the model. If it was flying an airplane or something that mattered, they probably would have taken more care. The change they made had a completely acceptable risk / consequence tradeoff

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yifanl3y ago

Drastic is relative to the expected impact of the application. There isn't much worse that can possibly happen to a bot-generated stream than having the stream taken down by the powers-that-be.

timr3y ago

This is like saying that having something taken down by a mod on reddit is a "drastic consequence". I mean, sure...the content is removed, but in most cases, the reason for the action is subjective and somewhat arbitrary.

To me, this is less a commentary on AI than on the absurd sensitivities of community moderation.

yifanl3y ago

Again, the drasticness of a consequence is defined by the system you're trying to build for.

If you build a bot to automate your streaming so you can have 100% stream uptime and you end up with 0% uptime, that's because your product failed drastically. (Keeping in mind, as arbitrary and subjective the rules of Twitch are, the vast majority of human streamers have never been banned for arbitrary moderation)

madeofpalk3y ago

"Website makes moderation decision some people disagree with" is a lot less novel or interesting.

tinus_hn3y ago

For many people Twitch streams are their primary source of income, this kind of ban can have quite a lot of impact. And then besides the ban there is the chilling effect because no one wants to skirt the rules and risk a ban. And that is what allows social justice warriors to dictate what others can make jokes about.

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anonymouskimmer3y ago

> If it was flying an airplane or something that mattered, they probably would have taken more care.

I think the usual response to comments like this is: "Oh you sweet summer child".

Not that you're technically wrong, but from years of headlines it's often enough that even if extra care is taken, it's not always sufficient.

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yifanl3y ago

Drastic is relative to the expected impact of the application. There isn't much worse that can possibly happen to a bot-generated stream than having the stream taken down by the powers-that-be.

timr3y ago

To me, this is less a commentary on AI than on the absurd sensitivities of community moderation.

yifanl3y ago

Again, the drasticness of a consequence is defined by the system you're trying to build for.

madeofpalk3y ago

"Website makes moderation decision some people disagree with" is a lot less novel or interesting.

tinus_hn3y ago

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anonymouskimmer3y ago

> If it was flying an airplane or something that mattered, they probably would have taken more care.

I think the usual response to comments like this is: "Oh you sweet summer child".

Not that you're technically wrong, but from years of headlines it's often enough that even if extra care is taken, it's not always sufficient.

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