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0 pointsrandom3143y ago0 comments

> This is not an accurate account of how he said he developed his knowledge base.

I quoted him directly, because I was expecting this kind of response. He took a week off and implemented some stuff from the ground up and was ready to have serious conversations with AI researchers. The 40 papers by Ilya came later. I have read a 100 ML papers and reviewed preprints. That's quite a low bar, especially if you are prone to skip the math and simply read the abstract and conclusions.

His whole approach gives me a ML for hackers vibe and his thoughts on AGI, if it had come from anyone else, would have been described as word salad.

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WoodenChair3y ago

> The 40 papers by Ilya came later. I have read a 100 ML papers and reviewed preprints.

I would say it’s more likely John Carmack is capable of learning the state-of-the-art of AI from 40 papers than a random (pun intended based on username) from 100.

random314OP3y ago

Sure, he must be faster than Geoff Hinton too and it took Hinton a life time.

Funnily enough, I am able to publish ML papers - but John Carmack isn't. I wonder why. I would also like to learn more about all the computer graphics algorithms Carmack has invented before I trust him to invent AGI.

Here is one example of a person I am familiar with - Math Olympiad bronze medalist. Princeton PhD in ML Theory. AI researcher in Google.

https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=gZgQLkgAAAAJ&hl=en

Sadly enough, nobody seems to care about his opinion on AGI but we have 1000s of people hanging off Carmacks words because he built Wolf3D and Doom.

WoodenChair3y ago

Your OP and replies kind of just come across as jealous that John Carmack’s opinion on this stuff is taken seriously whereas relatively unknown folks’ (yourself, the researcher you mentioned) opinions, are not despite the fact that he’s not traditionally credentialed. Like I said in my original post, we should be skeptical of him and his claims. But the way you are dragging this thread out feels like sour grapes. Of course one of the most famous programmers in the world is at least heard out when he dedicates years of his life to a programming adjacent topic. That’s just how fame works.

And calling out Princeton, Google, etc. further exemplifies an academic bubble kind of credentialism. I suspect you don’t realize how it sounds because you’re so in that credential filled world.

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WoodenChair3y ago

> The 40 papers by Ilya came later. I have read a 100 ML papers and reviewed preprints.

I would say it’s more likely John Carmack is capable of learning the state-of-the-art of AI from 40 papers than a random (pun intended based on username) from 100.

random314OP3y ago

Sure, he must be faster than Geoff Hinton too and it took Hinton a life time.

Here is one example of a person I am familiar with - Math Olympiad bronze medalist. Princeton PhD in ML Theory. AI researcher in Google.

https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=gZgQLkgAAAAJ&hl=en

Sadly enough, nobody seems to care about his opinion on AGI but we have 1000s of people hanging off Carmacks words because he built Wolf3D and Doom.

WoodenChair3y ago

And calling out Princeton, Google, etc. further exemplifies an academic bubble kind of credentialism. I suspect you don’t realize how it sounds because you’re so in that credential filled world.

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