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0 pointsmachina_ex_deus3y ago0 comments

It's likely to make people around his position lose their job. If there were safety issues at work, like I said, I'm 100% in favor of kicking people out for the first transgression in work. If there wasn't, your argument is pointless. You're just ignoring reality for the convenience of your vengeful rightousness.

Stop acting like you get some sick virtue points by enacting vengeance on bad people. Two wrongs don't make it right.

How about a message that even sinful people can still do good? Or that they should channel their flaws to something good?

As if I care for roiland being fine. Your message is that it's fine because the only ones being hurt are everyone around him.

And this has everything to do with cancel culture. It's happening to Harry Potter over nothing right now. It's all over the place. People cancelling the constitution because "slave owners", owning slaves is definitely worse than domestic abuse.

It's all nonsense. Either an action is good or bad. Bad action on bad people doesn't make it good. It makes you bad as well. Everyone sins. You don't judge an action by whether it's helping a sinner because then no action will be good. You judge it only by itself.

This is a new form of religious atheism where the mob is responsible for justice instead of God. And in my opinion, society is better when justice is served by an intelligent entity rather than blind mob.

It shouldn't be the mob's job to stone him.

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giraffe_lady3y ago· 1 in thread

You need to chill and stop extrapolating my values and worldview from a few sentences online. I'm a practicing christian so the concept of forgiveness is one of CENTRAL importance in my life and a daily practical and philosophical concern.

We all sin but not all sins are crimes do you get what I'm saying? Our reaction to the spiritual state of sinfulness is, needs to be, different from our reaction to the social transgression caused by it.

Forgiveness requires repentance, contrition, consequences. Forgiveness is not just letting something pass as if it didn't happen, though certainly sometimes it can be. Forgiveness also requires an active forgivER, which is not me in this case.

Roiland didn't do anything to me I have nothing to forgive. I am not god and cannot forgive him for his sins. This should be between him and the people he did harm, which is his specific victim here, but also the people around him depending on his stability and integrity in his professional role. Blowing up the employments of all those people with this transgression is part of its harm and something he needs to seek forgiveness for. But not from us.

machina_ex_deusOP3y ago

Then let him get what he deserves, as fits the crime. I'm not even talking about forgiveness. Justice isn't stopping bad people from doing good, it's stopping them from doing bad. Again I'm all in favor of him getting justice. Pay his victims. Go to jail or whatever it is that's the punishment for this. But this cancel culture isn't justice.

And of course he's not supposed to seek forgiveness from us, that's my point. He needs to be judged by a judge. Not me, neither adult swim. Definitely not this mob justice.

One of the major points of religions is to prevent mob justice. To be judged fairly in an intelligent process, with a fitting punishment.

How is firing him from his job a fitting punishment? There's no law for that because there shouldn't be. The justice system has as a principle the concept of minimizing the consequences of uninvolved parties.

There wouldn't be so much hunger for vengeance if people believed others will get what they deserve.

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