Ask HN: Looking for a Programable Text Editor

11 pointsxcubic3y ago11 comments

I’m not sure if this exists, but I’m curious what would be the closest thing available to an “Event based programmable text editor”.

Imagine this scenario:

    - Every monday at 10, the editor, would inject a checklist into your work log with some weekly checks you do at work.
        - Some of the checks are manual, some have inputs to accept extra data
        - Some are automated because you wrote a snippet of code for doing such check
        - On save, convert to json and send to someone via email
    - Every time you do this, you need to do a followup around 2days later with the person that received the checklist. They will provide a paragraph with some feedback that you need to save. To do so, your editor, already injected a form into your work log for doing so.

This is just an example but could go very far I imagine.

Ask HN: Looking for a Programable Text Editor

11 pointsxcubic3y ago11 comments

I’m not sure if this exists, but I’m curious what would be the closest thing available to an “Event based programmable text editor”.

Imagine this scenario:

    - Every monday at 10, the editor, would inject a checklist into your work log with some weekly checks you do at work.
        - Some of the checks are manual, some have inputs to accept extra data
        - Some are automated because you wrote a snippet of code for doing such check
        - On save, convert to json and send to someone via email
    - Every time you do this, you need to do a followup around 2days later with the person that received the checklist. They will provide a paragraph with some feedback that you need to save. To do so, your editor, already injected a form into your work log for doing so.

This is just an example but could go very far I imagine.

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fungiblecog3y ago· 2 in thread

emacs is the programmable text editor

thr3ads3y ago

Because of the steep learning curve and troubleshooting associated with it, I've become more hesitant in recommending Emacs. However for the curious, the video Getting Started in Org Mode [1] which is a great demonstration on Emacs and Org Mode's potential as an organizational tool. Anyone still curious and would like to smooth out the learning curve, I'd recommend using an emacs starter kit such as Doom Emacs [2] which has a lot of OOB functionality without having to immediately learn Elisp.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzA2YODtgK4

[2] https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs

deafpolygon3y ago

It is daunting, but no more than say, a Visual Studio IDE, or learning how to use Microsoft Office (Word and Excel can be complicated as hell).

Starting with Doom Emacs would go a long way, and was what really helped me get started. Of course, it helped that I was familiar with Vim.

ktpsns3y ago· 1 in thread

Since vom and emacs were already proposed, there is a third classic in this round: Shell programming. Typically you have $EDITOR env set (to something like nano, vim, emacs, gedit, kwrite, etc) and then can include it in your script as in

   echo stuff >> worklog
   $EDITOR worklog && mailto someone

etc

jmholla3y ago

If you want to handle `$EDITOR` not being set, at least in bash, you can use one of it's parameter expansion features:

    ${EDITOR:-vim}

Will use vim if `$EDITOR` is unset.

smcn3y ago

Just to echo a few comments, I'd use Emacs for this.

For time based events, you have the `run-at-time` function.

For snippets, I'd look at YASnippet[0] as they're really easy to create and you're granted a significant amount of control. Nothing you wrote sounds outside the scope of what it can provide.

On save is easy, just use `after-save-hook`. Emails is easy, too, though you will need SMTP or something.

Followup email may require custom code however Emacs 29 has SQLite support so you may be able to utilise that?

0: https://joaotavora.github.io/yasnippet/

gwp3y ago

Acme: http://acme.cat-v.org/ It can do everything Emacs can but it's so lightweight it almost doesn't exist. Its power comes from the fact that it brings your external tools together.

It can be programmed using its filesystem (9p) interface, and extended by adding plumber(4) rules.

A demo by Russ Cox: https://youtu.be/dP1xVpMPn8M

Stin9er3y ago

Neovim with Lua should do the trick.

tracker13y ago

Could probably write VS Code extenions that do all this for you.

deafpolygon3y ago

Emacs, Vim, a UNIX shell

MrMan3y ago

emacs is socialist and bad, Neovim is social democrat and good

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

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11 comments · 8 top-level

fungiblecog3y ago· 2 in thread

emacs is the programmable text editor

thr3ads3y ago

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzA2YODtgK4

[2] https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs

deafpolygon3y ago

It is daunting, but no more than say, a Visual Studio IDE, or learning how to use Microsoft Office (Word and Excel can be complicated as hell).

Starting with Doom Emacs would go a long way, and was what really helped me get started. Of course, it helped that I was familiar with Vim.

ktpsns3y ago· 1 in thread

   echo stuff >> worklog
   $EDITOR worklog && mailto someone

etc

jmholla3y ago

If you want to handle `$EDITOR` not being set, at least in bash, you can use one of it's parameter expansion features:

    ${EDITOR:-vim}

Will use vim if `$EDITOR` is unset.

smcn3y ago

Just to echo a few comments, I'd use Emacs for this.

For time based events, you have the `run-at-time` function.

For snippets, I'd look at YASnippet[0] as they're really easy to create and you're granted a significant amount of control. Nothing you wrote sounds outside the scope of what it can provide.

On save is easy, just use `after-save-hook`. Emails is easy, too, though you will need SMTP or something.

Followup email may require custom code however Emacs 29 has SQLite support so you may be able to utilise that?

0: https://joaotavora.github.io/yasnippet/

gwp3y ago

Acme: http://acme.cat-v.org/ It can do everything Emacs can but it's so lightweight it almost doesn't exist. Its power comes from the fact that it brings your external tools together.

It can be programmed using its filesystem (9p) interface, and extended by adding plumber(4) rules.

A demo by Russ Cox: https://youtu.be/dP1xVpMPn8M

Stin9er3y ago

Neovim with Lua should do the trick.

tracker13y ago

Could probably write VS Code extenions that do all this for you.

deafpolygon3y ago

Emacs, Vim, a UNIX shell

MrMan3y ago

emacs is socialist and bad, Neovim is social democrat and good

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse