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Erdogan definitely took advantage of the aftermath of the coup to purge the military but the coup was not “made up”.

This was mostly a theory thrown around by western journalists who first tried to claim that a coup against Erdogan would be a good thing, a “liberal coup”. Followed by them pushing the idea it was fake.

I dislike Erdogan but hearing from my family’s experiences during the last coup in Turkiye I’ll take a democratically elected government I dislike over another military dictatorship.

I’m really disappointed in the media here in the west and the ideas they were pushing during that time.

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Two extra points:

1. Turkiye has an extensive history of coups and general military intervention in politics which sets a precedent for this kind of coup attempt.

2. These sorts of claims are really akin to claiming 9/11 was an inside job. For some reason when it’s Turkiye being discussed what should be rightly identified as conspiracy theories become socially acceptable and viable in people’s minds.

As someone who spent a very long night in the middle of Beyoğlu during the coup (e.g., small arms fire, sonic booms that shattered windows, run on ATMs) and extremely tense weeks that followed (e.g., gangs of men patrolling the streets, shouting takbir, and threatening less conservative citizens), it certainly felt real. I personally think the truth lies not in either binary option, but somewhere in between. A political event can both be organic in nature and carefully exploited by and for the benefit of the other side.

Made up coup?

There was clear signs of both CIA/Mossad involvement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

What are your sources on the coup being made-up ? I don't know much about it but it does seem credible given the turkish military coup history. Especially since traditionaly, the army has taken the side of the CHP, oppposing Erdogan.

coup is not made-up. They killed more than 250 people live on air. corpses are in the middle. they shot at the citizen with snipers. Those who resisted the coup were screened by helicopters. They all have camera footage.

He will probably run unless Erdogan can influence the court of cassation. But he would not have run if not sentenced, because he is not the president of the opposition party (CHP).

Some say government pulled this off (courts follow the orders of Erdogan) to force the hand of the opposition to appoint the Istanbul mayor as presedential candidate. This can cause turmoil within the opposition leaders. Erdogan may be trying to achieve this.

He also tests his power and the public's reaction. If the public cannot react to this and he can influence the court of cassation, he will secure his position as a dictator for life.

He was able to influence the court of cassation in previous cases, however this is a major case. We all hope that his power is not strong enough to influence the high court on this matter by ordering them to approve such a baseless claim.

The sentence also includes a ban from public positions, so if the courts decision is not overturned by appeals court, he can't legally run.

With elections this close, there is no telling what might happen. If the appeals takes a long time, he can run, be elected, then removed from presidency. Or he might run, but the appeals courts can finalize the decision after the cutoff for candidate applications. Or the appeals court might overturn, and things will go back to "normal".

We can only speculate till the courts makes its final decision.

When he won the mayor election in Istanbul the election board ordered a re-run of the election (and then he won again)

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/06/middleeast/turkey-istanbu...

I am not saying it won't. But the expectation is it should not have on hn unless it's at least IT or hacker culture related.