Eye of the Beholder: C64 Port (opens in new tab)

The C64 version is dual screen with automapper:

https://www.timeextension.com/news/2022/10/new-eye-of-the-be...

> I ended up downloading a program that mapped the level as I played it

What's the program? I've never heard of something similar, and sometimes I've wondered if they exists :)

Grimrock 2 was probably too hard, I have the same problem with a lot of these games I eventually get to a point where I am aimlessly doing things that may work or things I've missed and after several hours I either give up or check on-line for a cheat. It would be good if there was some code looking for this or a timed thing which drops a hint in-game to make the task more obvious to get to the next step

I played EotB about 2 years ago for the first time and stubbornly did it the old fashioned way with groh paper.

Definitely recommend anyone trying it out to use The All-Seeing Eye to automap instead.

It was hard for me too. I remember spending hours drawing immense maps... on the other hand a gifted friend of mind had no problem finding his way through the mazes.

> It was pretty good but it was hard for me to remember where I was/had been.

Back in those ancient times you were supposed to have grid paper and pencil ready to draw the map yourself while exploring :)

I loved Grimrock. Have there been any similar games of comparable quality released since Legend of Grimrock 2 in 2014? I haven't found any that I could get into.

The conversion of the intro is very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRsUFxT7eh8

Where does the C64 scene hang out these days?

Thanks for that introduction to Time Extension. Even better, I'm delighted they still offer an RSS feed.

> How is this possible in 64K of RAM?

The game requires "a cartridge such as an Ultimate II+, Backbit, Easy Flash 3, etc. due to its size. You will also be able to play it via VICE." [1]

[1] https://theoasisbbs.com/retrobits-preview-of-eye-of-the-beho...

The engine was completely reverse-engineered for the C64 (after first gaining expertise by creating an iOS version), and the project seems to have been in progress in some form or another since 2006.

Based on the news I've read in Indie Retro News, it actually sounds like the art is completely done from scratch. (which makes some sense, given C64 graphics quirks/limitations). Though the exact art process hasn't been revealed, art duties were split amongst a few notable C64 pixel artists who have explicit credit for their contribution.

So, near as I can tell it's 100% reverse-engineered from scratch. (early screenshots and dev info here: https://www.indieretronews.com/2022/09/eye-of-beholder-c6412...)

I believe they only used the tiles (graphics) of the DOS version and re-implemented the game engine from scratch.