In Iran, he is one of the most famous people active in the field of programming and computer education. In his personal blog[0], he has been writing about technology and society for years. He has also a YouTube channel[1][2] to teach and encourage Iranians to programming and Linux, and a podcast[3] that has been explaining technology and science news along with his comments for several years. All this in a country with a dictatorial government where standing in the right place has a heavy price.
His arrest occurred on October 5, a few days after the recent nationwide protests[4] began in Iran. Arrest at home with beating. The reason for this is not yet clear, but it is probably due to his efforts to increase awareness of the society about Iran's internet censorship system, and his positions against a company called ArvanCloud. Many claim this company help the government of Iran in implementing the internet censorship's system (something like Great Firewall of China). In Jadi's own words, this company has made it possible for the government to turn the Internet into an intranet at any moment and block people's access to international services. Something that happens in every demonstration in Iran including right now.
The reason I am writing here is to raise awareness about him, which may lead to his release. All this may be nothing more than a false hope, but it is what I can do. From the news he covered in his podcast, it could be guessed that he is one of the regular readers of Hacker News. Perhaps hearing your support here will boost his morale behind bars in Evin. The prison which is also known as Evin University due to the number of educated political prisoners [5].
[0](Persian) https://jadi.net/
[1](Persian) https://www.youtube.com/jadimirmirani
[2](English) https://www.youtube.com/geekingjadi
[3](Persian) https://castbox.fm/channel/%D9%BE%D8%A7%D8%AF%DA%A9%D8%B3%D8%AA-%E2%80%93-%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%AF%DB%8C-%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D9%86%D8%AA-%7C-%DA%A9%DB%8C%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%AF-%D8%A2%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%AF-id22150?country=us
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahsa_Amini_protests
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evin_Prison
EFF also has an article. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/10/stop-persecution-irani...
The idea of any of those individuals sitting in prison for political reasons turns my stomach.
Imagine learning to program with no access (or highly disrupted access) to google, stack overflow and github.
Where you have to download web pages for later use in case your internet is cut off.
Where random power outages can suddenly interrupt you many times a day.
Where using a vpn can be used against you in a criminal case.
I can imagine that anyone who perseveres through those kinds of obstacles to become a programmer would have some pretty tremendous grit and would build them into a great developer.
It feels weird, like a lot is going through my head but realistically I can't do anything.
If you will ever read this jadi, hope you're safe and thanks for your teachings. <3
Because the US wants to back something it can control, not a popular movement. The US government backed Iran's prior cruel and sadistic minority.
Calling it the "Islamic Revolution", as state-sponsored history books do, is crass revisionism.
The prior government was installed by the US because the government before that wanted to audit BP - the oil company - and cant have that!
The only citizens extreme enough to correct this happened to also be religious extremists and now they run the country ever since
2. If you know someone influential from country that Iran trades with, let them know. It is bit difficult as no country in Western world trades with Iran. And China doesn't give two shits about human rights abuse, same with India. South Korea and Turkey are the largest importer after those.
3. Upvote so that chances of someone who could help with first two could see this thread.
4. Don't talk only to "influencers" — also talk to your co-workers, your neighbours, your internet community. Raise awareness.
5. Don't just "talk to". Ask. Ask (exiled) Iranians what they think about the situation.
I was traveling around in Iran for some months, and one big takeway for me was that there is a huge gap between the highly educated, incredibly friendly and open-minded population and their cruel medieval rulers. I still don't really understand the historical situation in which the mullahs were able to come to power.
This attempt at overthrowing the regime in Iran with the help of the western media is probably not going to work. This is not the first time that it’s been attempted. If you’re willing to stand against your own government then you’re definitely brave but you will likely deal with the consequences no matter where you’re from. And that’s not something anyone can help with.
I posted this a few months back and I was downvoted but I’ll say it again. It’s important that we all remain neutral and promote non-interventalisim on this platform. One life harmed or lost is not worth it!
If you truly care, for whatever reason, reach out to your contacts in the country and grease a few palms. Those countries are poor and easily bribed. But if you raise too much awareness, then his freedom would be beyond bribes and diplomatic pressure.
Source: I am an Iranian
its unlikely Iran government cares about opinions on the HN.
Facebook, Twitter, Reddit et al are modern censorship platforms. I know that saying that violates liberal dogma, but it's true. You could probably even go so far as to say cancel culture is a censorship platform, particularly when it's misused.
The problem with censorship is that it stifles intellectualism. Intellectuals have always cut against the grain and said crazy shit in essays, much like I'm saying now. It's the sort of crazy shit that challenges your worldview, and it's natural to want to downvote, report, and have that content removed from your platform of choice.
But intellectualism is the only thing that can create a revolution.
And politically-correct censorship is getting all the intellectuals silenced (along with all the actual idiots).
Now, what's it mean to "stop supporting censorship?" Everybody agrees that, as private platforms, these companies have the right to moderate and remove any speech that they choose. The problem is that they're also seeking protections under Section 230, which says "Internet companies that don't moderate their content can't be responsible for their content." This creates a dilemma, especially when these companies have created an oligopoly surrounding online speech.
We need legislation that establishes the public forums and discussion areas on these providers as public utilities so that their users receive first amendment protections under the Constitution. This still allows them to remove content that violates the first amendment - like incitement - but would otherwise reclaim the internet as the world's largest mass free speech zone.
If this is an example of the "intellectualism" you're championing, then honestly nothing of value was lost.
If the west cracked down on Iran's powerful grifters half as hard as it is going after Russian oligarchs, the regime would be under a lot of pressure. The oligarchs, in comparison, don't seem to mind - they are more afraid of Putin.
(I think I'll go back to largely ignoring it, satisfied that HN is a perfectly adequate 'jumping off point' for everything worth reading, with perhaps better global coverage of the worthy stuff.)
vs almost daily for the last while (week? month?) on CNN.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33398134
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33371121
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33140237
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33106196
This last one was also about Jadi.
I find that very interesting, since in the national and local newspapers I read in the United States, the Iranian protesters have been extensively covered. There were multiple stories each day at the beginning, and even now at least two or three each week.
In what country are you? Which newspapers are letting you down?
I'm not quite there yet myself, I sometimes fall in the bad habit of news surfing for fun, but I found the wiki portal to be sufficient to keep reasonably informed.
There is absolutely no value to knowing every single accident, disaster, political incident, etc happening in every country around the world today.
Also, people participate in protests because they feel need to do something and are willing to take the risk. It is the "I can't stay passive anymore" statement and feeling at large.
And there were succesfull protests. That is how communism ended. That is how Ukraine protests kept it democracy back in 2014 (rather then allowing it to become Belurussia). And Iran had succesfull revolution too, through that one brought religious dictatorship.
Whoa, wait a minute. Where?
Communism in Europe imploded on itself because of western pressure, weakened Soviet Union and dysfunctional economy. Protests were just a manifestation.
he is not doing anything illegal, he just wants a better life for everybody including the guys who jailed him and their children. His best bet is that some of those guys would understand his motivations and help him.
Now he probably does not fully understand the regime motivation and how the police state lives in a paranoia. Not because he's stupid, because sometimes the only way out of a situation is to trust your opponent with your own life. Sometimes you do what your guts tell you to do
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-nie...
What we can do is try and support everyone who is taking action to better their place in the world. If all we have is our attention and our voices, that is what we MUST use.
Even if just to tell Iranians that we hear their voices and support their cause.
I understand that you are desperately trying to help him but you need to think very carefully about unintended consequences in these situations. I don't have specific advice I would want to post here.
I do have a question that has been on my mind: these protests seem to be spontaneous and the crackdown spastic - I don't get how people like Jadi allowed themselves to be caught in the first place as he has the skillset to avoid detection.
Why did he ever post anything under his real name? How did he not see the arrest coming? Why is everything so disorganized at this seemingly late stage?
Anyway, I wish him and you the best of luck.
P.S. - There is a lot of interesting none-philosophical reading material produced in the US and elsewhere during the counterculture era that you might find extremely useful more directly than the well wishing going on in this thread.
P.P.S - For people who are taking this as some sort of debbie downer comment understand that there are reports not only of teenagers being incarcerated but show trials and impending death sentences. Sadly, you can expect some people like Jadi will be made an example of - this isn't a game.