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0 pointsnl3y ago0 comments

I think you are missing the point.

React/Vue/Angular/Whatever are different flavours of the "framework oriented front end development" thing. Yes there differences in both technices and degree you are forced to use only that framework but the principles are essentially the same.

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bayraktar3y ago

So what other kind of thing do you suggest (and which currently has some traction)?

berkes3y ago

What about the tried and trusted "have some backend generate HTML and push that to the client"?

It still works for me, has many benefits, and many downsides. But so do the "react-alike" frontend frameworks. There's no silver bullet.

It cracks me up (and makes me sad) to see all the effort going into "hydrating, SSR and whatnots" in JS frameworks, where we move our ball of react-js-spagetti onto some deno-based-edge-function-container thing, in order to serve clients plain HTML... I mean, this problem was solved in 1998 already!

bayraktar3y ago

Okay, I'm with you - but I meant for, like, people who have some idea of what they're doing (and don't just impulsively reach for a massive framework to deal with routine content dispatch).

What do you suggest for manageable SPA-like development -- for those of us who have actually thought the matter through and have decided that's what we need (at least in certain corners of this otherwise lean and mean, mostly static / old-school website we're building)?

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nlOP3y ago

I don't agree with the Twitter thread but the implied alternative is serverside HTML and unclear what is the solution for rapid UX on the client.

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bayraktar3y ago

So what other kind of thing do you suggest (and which currently has some traction)?

berkes3y ago

What about the tried and trusted "have some backend generate HTML and push that to the client"?

It still works for me, has many benefits, and many downsides. But so do the "react-alike" frontend frameworks. There's no silver bullet.

bayraktar3y ago

Okay, I'm with you - but I meant for, like, people who have some idea of what they're doing (and don't just impulsively reach for a massive framework to deal with routine content dispatch).

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nlOP3y ago

I don't agree with the Twitter thread but the implied alternative is serverside HTML and unclear what is the solution for rapid UX on the client.

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