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0 pointscableshaft3y ago0 comments

And there are plenty of instances of companies that have gone under when a big parent company decides to incorporate your business as a 'feature' in part of their big monster product.

I'm not saying it's going to definitely happen and the company is doomed or anything, it's certainly possible that SimulaVR will come out on top for productivity devices (or peacefully coexist as an alternative alongside Meta's offering). But it shouldn't ignore what Meta is doing either, especially when they're actively saying they're moving into their turf.

At the very least, it looks like Meta will put up a helluva fight.

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kanetw3y ago· 6 in thread

Of course anything Meta does is a bit worrisome. I just don't think we're in the same niche-- IMO Meta is fundamentally built on data collection, and VR is just a side effect.

Unless Meta decides to abandon that, I think we'll have a niche.

vineyardmike3y ago

> IMO Meta is fundamentally built on data collection

Isn’t their whole Metaverse thing a gamble to get away from that? Why does data collection prevent creating a good VR experience. If anything it should align goals well (spend as much time in VR as possible, so as much in VR as possible). Besides, most DataCollection companies offer CollectionFree enterprise contracts… which is where the money for this probably is.

(Btw I’m a huge fan of this sort of product and I hope a respectful company wins.. I’m just skeptical that meta can’t fund their way to success. )

nonplus3y ago

> Isn’t their whole Metaverse thing a gamble to get away from that?

Many of us think Meta is trying to gain as much market as they can early, so they can leverage eye tracking and mm wave tech for very invasive biometric collection and ad targeting in the future. Reasonable minds can disagree on that.

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taneq3y ago

What? They’re doing VR because they think it’s the basis for the next general computing platform, and owning the platform gives you unlimited access to the user’s data. And in VR, that data includes the user’s gaze, height, physical fitness, high resolution 3D model of their gaming area, and other inferred or measured biometrics. As well as every virtual strip club, naughty video, and indiscreet personal message.

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romanhn3y ago

This is similar to saying "Facebook is fundamentally built on data collection, and social networking is just a side effect." Technically true, but not much consolation for all the social networks that didn't go all in on advertising and perished.

Wish you the best of luck either way, this is an exciting area and more competition is great. They definitely are competition though.

kanetw3y ago

Yeah, of course, it's a tough space to be in. Just saying that we need to carve out a niche where Meta can't compete vs try to fight Meta head on.

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MadcapJake3y ago

Enterprise loves data collection so that's really a perfect fit for their next phase customer base. That's why I think the Meta account system was important for them to get done pre Quest Pro launch (and significantly early too so any issues are worked out before enterprise demos start)

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kanetw3y ago· 6 in thread

Of course anything Meta does is a bit worrisome. I just don't think we're in the same niche-- IMO Meta is fundamentally built on data collection, and VR is just a side effect.

Unless Meta decides to abandon that, I think we'll have a niche.

vineyardmike3y ago

> IMO Meta is fundamentally built on data collection

(Btw I’m a huge fan of this sort of product and I hope a respectful company wins.. I’m just skeptical that meta can’t fund their way to success. )

nonplus3y ago

> Isn’t their whole Metaverse thing a gamble to get away from that?

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taneq3y ago

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romanhn3y ago

Wish you the best of luck either way, this is an exciting area and more competition is great. They definitely are competition though.

kanetw3y ago

Yeah, of course, it's a tough space to be in. Just saying that we need to carve out a niche where Meta can't compete vs try to fight Meta head on.

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MadcapJake3y ago

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