I imagine it will need an impressive amount of safety features.
But any walking robot especially at that height and size is a significant engineering achievement.
And they have been working on it for months rather than years. And the system is entirely electric unlike Boston Dynamics.
The last demo was a person in a suit.
Your expectations were unrealistic if you are not impressed.
Nobody would first look at that and then want to get into a self driving car built by the same company.
There's some kind of mass delusion going on.
They seem to have a real issue actually shipping. Partly because Elon is incapable of understanding realistic timeframes.
Just like million robo taxis in 2020 :-)
This was amazing by this with the short time it's been in development, and the vision for this project is beyond anything that has been done with humanoid robots. Sure they might fail, but it's an exciting venture to follow.
Are Model S owners making more money than they are paying in leases thanks to lending their cars as auto cabs like Elon promised they would by 2020?
Is hyper loop even a thing or just something Elon admitted was something he came up with to try and kill public transport alternatives?
The Boston Dynamics Robot is far more of a commercial reality than the CyberTruck if you really want to put things in context.
I actually think Tesla showed more than I expected.
At least we now start the rat race for robots.
Up and running android, big money, fast development.
This is also an electric motor robot vs pneumatic actuators from BD.
In most other places we are switching away from hydroponics because electronics are getting so advanced.
Electronic actuators is defiantly cheaper and simpler so for a consumer product its seems to be the right choice.
And it’s assuming that there’s actually a market for humanoid robots. Other than futurology folks getting excited about that form factor, there’s no real market for it, and research shows that humanoids robots are almost never a most optimal answer.
Tesla is going for volume and just started.
Because it doesn’t.
Most robotics as far as I understand are designed to be specific to a set of tasks, and the design is optimized around that, thus no other industrial robots look exactly like humans, as far as I am aware. Are they being too ambitious, and romantic, in trying to design a robot that does too much while looking like a human?
Probably there is a bit of "too ambitious, and romantic" going on too.
I see their reasoning as something like that they have a lot of batteries motors processors and AI software lying around from doing cars. It would be kinda fun for a few engineers to try to put those bits in humanoid robot form. Who knows maybe it'll work, maybe it'll help the stock price. There isn't that much cost as they had most of the resources already.
What would help the development would be a "standard" hardware platform one can just buy and add own code.
Are ethics discussed in the presentation?
Social equity?
Watching now ... it's 3hrs .. looking for ethics consideration.
.. ok he simplifies what an Economy is, to the theoretical. Can an economy be one which frees marginalized people from poverty? I'm skeptical and hope Tesla has an Economist, on stage, shortly. Musk is claiming good intention, explicitly.
Q: So, who does this? Who is planning future economies where marginalized groups are even further marginalized?
Edit: down voting is perplexing, it's a reasonable topic for discussion given the significance of this tech neutralizing Labor.
Edit 2: we should have qualms about technology that disrupts sensitive populations. I have no qualms about introduction of things like Docker which disrupted the people who wrote lots of crazy scripts to help deployment of crazy configurations to process data on collections of servers. The key is the marginalized community, who is not in a position to be able to pivot because they are marginalized.
That’s obviously ridiculous. They went and did more productive things in the store. The same will apply here.
I think it's reasonable to consider the chance a fully mobile non-human humanoid will actually disrupt labor more so than the invention of a shopping cart.
I'm talking about marginalized people who are under educated and have very good reason to believe that they are not a part of the broader society, black and brown people. This is a real group of people.
Take away their labor opportunity and they're not going to suddenly become managers. Maybe someone will train them so that they become robot repair technicians or something else which hasn't been a likely to be automated.
Who is thinking about this for them? They're certainly not thinking about it because they don't think they belong in this society, already, based on how they are actively marginalized, based on evidence.
So it's left up to us as technologists to think about the societal impact of the technology that we're working on.
Edit: furthermore, I have worked in a grocery store and it was not great. I had to go out of my way to engage with people, to get some of that juicy worthwhile socialization, because the job was to move stuff around. Move new blocks of cheese into the freezing cold open refrigerators. Move purchased groceries from the cash register to people's cars. Move carts from the parking lot back into the store. Not great labor. So having a personal shopper job would be awesome by comparison.
Literally no invention, not this robot by Tesla certainly, would ever have even 5% of the impact the tracks and other farm tools had.
Bringing race into this is nonsense. If the robots are taking jobs, do you think they care what color someone is? They don't. And it's literally going to come for everyone's current job. Which is a good thing, so long as we have an economic system that evolves alongside it. This is quite literally the only way to eliminate poverty in totality.
But this is a recruiting / technical event, so you won't find more ethics considerations in the rest of the video probably.
This has a dramatic impact on society. It's not just like a new GPU technology. This is labor.
Consideration for disrupting labor inequity is going to get worse.
The fact that the money people who own Tesla stock are supposedly in charge is a distraction.
Stock owners don't have motivation to make a long-term socially equitable product.
The constituents are lobbyists and poorly organized under-unionized civilians.
So, I don't expect the government to meaningfully produce any accommodation ahead of time, at least in the United States.
Therefore it's up to us as technologists who effectively represents the brains of Tesla, to do that ethical thinking.
