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0 pointsilc3y ago0 comments

Not really.

If you think about it: Magnus, is Magnus. He has an aura about him. People make blunders playing against him they wouldn't against others. This is known. Magnus is ALSO very good. But that "aura"... doesn't hurt him.

If for whatever reason, Hans saw far enough ahead, to not be worried... and Magnus hadn't, what does that say about Magnus?

He mentioned Hans wasn't nervous, in comparison to Magnus he had nothing to lose.

I won't defend his prior cheating. I will say: Prove it Magnus.

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I'll draw a parallel to a game I have played at the national / international level. Bridge.

Bridge has had a TON of cheating scandals. People knew something was fishy. But they took the time, watched the videos, and figured out what happened.

Recent ones during the time I played:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantoni_and_Nunes_cheating_sca...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_and_Schwartz_cheating_s...

A whole article on the topic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_bridge

... I want the smoking gun Magnus. Not your gut.

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bombcar3y ago

Bridge cheating is a bit different, because you can find the smoking gun from video reviews, etc.

I wonder if "bridge supercomputers" as a cheating method has been tried. I assume the percentages on finesses working, etc, are easy enough for the experts to learn that they're not very worthwhile.

ilcOP3y ago

Well, remember, you don't have full information. Especially in an "all pass" auction from opponents.

Interestingly, the computers would to MUCH better on defense. Because as you bid, you speak about the distribution of your hand, and your partner does the same about theirs. (Even in negative inferences.)

And trust me: Good opponents will use that information, already.

So far, bridge has found the smoking guns because honestly: The cheaters have sucked at cheating.

If they bothered to actually encrypt their signals at all, they would have been suspected, but not caught.

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To answer the question: Even today. Good players will know the answer to when to take which finesses. Where good, is probably around Life Master and a bit under.

afpx3y ago

The curve of his wins and losses over time will differ from those of the other top players, if he's cheating.

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